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Just read the messages now and am really pleased with the information you all have found for me. A big thanks to safc and ArgyllGran and the others.
All very useful information that will help me with my research.

There was more than one Clement (or Clemens) Norman in Ashwick area.

Possible death of the one who married Betsy - just going by year ???

Clement Norman
in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812
Name Clement Norman [Clemens Norman]
Event Type Burial
Burial Date 17 Mar 1788
Burial Place Ashwick, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears Ashwick

In the "age" column it says "+P" - as it does for several others on that and other pages. Some just say +, and some x - which may be the same but written carelessly.
I've no idea what it means.
The age column is left blank for everyone else - no actual ages entered.


There were also a number of women named Betty/Betsy Norman in the area over the years.

Betsy on the same page as John & Joanna:

Betsy Bendel
in the Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914
Name Betsy Bendel
Gender Female
Marriage or Bann Date 30 Nov 1760
Marriage Place Kilmersdon, Somerset, England
Spouse
Clement Norman

Banns were published on 1st, 23rd, and 30th November.

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Baptism entry
While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data
Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Somerset
Place (Links to more information) Ashwick
Church name (Links to more information) St James
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Baptism date 25 Feb 1738/9
Person forename Joanna
Person sex F
Father forename George
Mother forename Hannah
Father surname HEAL
Transcribed by Yvonne Scrivener
Credit Yvonne Scrivener
File line number 223

Marriage entry
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Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Somerset
Place (Links to more information) Kilmersdon
Church name (Links to more information) St Peter and Paul
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Marriage date 24 Dec 1760
Groom forename John
Groom surname BENDLE
Bride forename Joanna
Bride surname HELE
Bride parish of Ashwick
Witness1 Hercules LOVELL
Witness2 James HOBS
Notes Banns No 132 [groom of Ashweek in banns; bride HEALE and a sojourner in banns]
Transcribed by Yvonne Scrivener
File line number 548


from freereg

Thanks Greyghost.
I do have FMP and have seen that, but they don't have the image like Ancestry does. I notice that FMP has Joanna living at Ashwick, the same as John. I didn't print the image out at the library, but from memory the image looks nothing like Ashwick does it? From what you say and others above, its sojourner.

Thank you KathleenBell, Gwyn in Kent and greyghost for confirming the details.

Gwyn - I didn't notice about Betsy Bendle. I don't have Ancestry and I went to the libary to use Ancestry on their computer. I am actually just starting to research the name Bendle/Bendal, so Betsy may well be an ancestor.

I do have Findmypast and will go and see if she is on there. Though please could you let me have the details of her, just in case I can't find her on Findmy past.

From FMP - transcript only of marriage
Somerset Marriage Index
Kilmersdon, Somerset, England

First name(s) John
Last name Bendle
Sex Male
Bride's parish Ashwick
Marriage year 1760
By licence or banns banns
Marriage date 25 DEC 1760
Parish Kilmersdon
Spouse's first name(s) Joanna
Spouse's last name Hele
Groom's parish Ashwick
Bride's parish Ashwick

Record type Records
Record set Somerset Marriage Index
County Somerset
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Country England
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
Somerset & Dorset Family History Society
Transcriptions © Somerset & Dorset Family History Society

Transcript gives her name as Joanna Heale

the original says Joanna Heale sojourner

a sojourner is a temporary resident

Definitions of sojourner. a temporary resident. type of: occupant, occupier, resident. someone who lives at a particular place for a prolonged period or who was born there.

I think the surname is Heale... and then I think it says sojourner, ... rather than an actual name of a place.

Incidently, did you notice there is a Betsy Bendle on the same record? ( 129)

First name(s) John
Spouse's residence Usher <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Last name Bendle
Archive Somerset Archives
Sex Male
Archive reference D/P/ KILM 2/1/3
Banns year 1760
Document type Parish records
Banns date 07 Dec 1760
Event type Banns & marriages
Residence Ashwick
Year range 1754-1787
Denomination Anglican
Page 27
Place Kilmersdon
Record set Somerset Banns Index
County Somerset
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Country England
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Spouse's first name(s) Joanna
Collections from England, Great Britain
Spouse's last name Heale

Kath. x

Please could someone look at the image for me on banns of marriage on Ancestry.and see if you can see what the bride's surname is and the place where she is from. I can't decipher the writing on the image.

Somerset marriage registers, Banns and Allegations 1754-1914.
Kilmersdon, Somerset. Page 27, number 152

Banns published on 7th, 14th, 21st Dec 1760.
John Bendle of Ashwick and Joanna Heale?? of ??