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He's a rope maker in 1891, a hotel porter at marriage in 1898, and a drayman's assistant in 1911.

I don't see any sign of him having been a farmer.

A hotel porter could well have been working a night shift.
Of course, then he should be listed at the hotel.
I don't see him anywhere in 1901.


Incidentally, his brother George got married on the same day as Samuel (3/7/1898), in the same church, to Mary Jane Hallam.


ADDED:
At Lily's christening on 1st May 1901, Samuel is listed as a plumber , another job where he might have been out at night.

As a farmer he could have been out working during the night, and therefore not at home.

Lots of night shift workers,such as miners, don’t appear on the census.

Thanks so much! Sorry for the slow reply, been working all week. It is really appreciated. I font suppose anyone can tell me where the hillside father was when the 1901 census was taken?
He was Samuel Whittingham, born in Castleton, Derbyshire in 1878. His wife prudence is there as head of house with 2 children. I have tried everything I can think of but have no idea where he was or why. Any info would be great.

SHAW, Leslie Cornelius (Bachelor, age 24, Engineer, residing at 94 Well Road, Heeley).
Married Lily WHITTINGHAM, on October 3, 1925, by Harold A Pugh (Banns) at
Wadsley, Sheffield. Father's name is Herbert Andrew Shaw (Crane Driver).
Married in the presence of Ethel Shaw, Florrie Whittingham.
Notes: ~.
Page No: 240 Reg No: 479
Spouse Match or Similar Date Married Household if Available Surname Match if Available

WHITTINGHAM, Lily (Spinster, age 24, ~, residing at 125 Dykes Hall Road).
Married Leslie Cornelius SHAW, on October 3, 1925, by Harold A Pugh (Banns) at
Wadsley, Sheffield. Father's name is Samuel Whittingham (Storeman).
Married in the presence of Ethel Shaw, Florrie Whittingham.
Notes: ~.
Page No: 240 Reg No: 479

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At least two other GR members have Edith in trees.....try getting in touch

Ditto Norah

Whittingham, Edith
Baptism date 11 Jul 1906

Marriages Dec 1926 (>99%)
Strodder Alfred G Whittingham Ecclesall B. 9c 725
Whittingham Edith Strodder Ecclesall B. 9c 725

1939 Register
38 Bradwell Street, Sheffield, Sheffield C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Edith Strodder 07 Jun 1906 Female Daily Cleaning (Char Woman) Widowed 120 1
Arthur Strodder 18 May 1927 Male At School Single 120 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
Francis H Strodder 21 Oct 1895 Female Daily Cleaning Single 120 4


STRODDER, EDITH 1906
GRO Reference: DOR Q1/2000 in SHEFFIELD (0481G) Reg G60A Entry Number 231

Deaths Dec 1932 (>99%)
Strodder Alfred G 33 Ecclesall B 9c 400

STRODDER, ARTHUR 1927
GRO Reference: DOR Q2/1996 in SHEFFIELD (0481I) Reg I58A Entry Number 34

Births Jun 1931 (>99%)
Strodder Jack Whittingham Ecclesall B. 9c 609

STRODDER, JACK 1931
GRO Reference: DOR Q3/2012 in SHEFFIELD (048-1E) Entry Number 507127652

Two marriages on freebmd........look them up and follow-through on them

First name(s) Norah
Mother's first name(s) Prudence
Last name Whittingham
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Birth year 1914
Country England
Birth date 01 Sep 1914
Baptism date 30 Sep 1914
Page 80
Baptism place Wadsley
Record set Yorkshire Baptisms
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Samuel

1939 Register
49 Eskdale Road, Sheffield, Sheffield C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
William France 02 Jan 1909 Male Steelworks Labourer Married 124 1
Norah Turner (France) 01 Sep 1914 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 124 2
Polly France 25 Nov 1879 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 124 3
Barry France ? Jan 1938 Male Under School Age Single 124 4

Births Mar 1938 (>99%)
France Barry Whittingham Sheffield 9c 648

Marriages Jun 1936 (>99%)
France William Whittingham Sheffield 9c 1390
Whittingham Nora France Sheffield 9c 1390

Marriages Sep 1973 (>99%)

FRANCE NORAH TURNER SHEFFIELD 2D 493
TURNER JOSEPH E FRANCE SHEFFIELD 2D 493

1921 Census Of England & Wales
125, Dykes Hall Road, Hillsborough, Sheffield, Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Samuel Whittingham Head Male 1878 43 Castleton, Derbyshire, England Beer Bottling Stores Duncan Gilmoures & Co Ltd Brewers
Prudence Annie Whittingham Wife Female 1876 45 Cheshire, England House Duties -
Lily Whittingham Daughter Female 1901 20 Buxton, Derbyshire, England Sweet Factory Hand S M Johnson & Sons Sweet Manufacturers & Co
Edith Whittingham Daughter Female 1906 15 Buxton, Derbyshire, England General Servant Day Working George William Wilson Grocer
George William Whittingham Son Male 1909 12 Buxton, Derbyshire, England School -
Albert Whittingham Son Male 1911 10 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England School -
Norah Whittingham Daughter Female 1914 6 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England School -
Bernard Whittingham Son Male 1918 3 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Home -

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Edith in 1921:

Edith
Whittingham
1906
[Birthplace] Buxton, Derbyshire, England
[Residence ] Sheffield
Sheffield
Yorkshire (West Riding)

She's with siblings Albert, Bernard, Lily, George William, and Norah (1914), and parents.


If she married, it wasn't in Sheffield - that's all I can tell..

??
Lily Whittingham
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Lily Whittingham
Registration Date: Oct 1925[Nov 1925] [Dec 1925]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Spouse: Leslie C Shaw
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1257


Lily Shaw
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Lily Shaw
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 2 Mar 1901
Residence Date 1939
Address 5 Cox Place
Residence Place Sheffield, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number 43
Schedule Number 120
Sub Schedule Number 2
Enumeration District Kihn
Borough Sheffield
Registration district Sheffield 510/2
Inferred Spouse
Leslie C Shaw
Inferred Children
Eric Shaw
Household Members (Name) Age
Leslie C Shaw 38
Lily Shaw 38
Eric Shaw 13
This record is officially closed.


Lily Shaw
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Lily Shaw
Death Age: 86
Birth Date: 2 Mar 1901
Registration Date: Jan 1988
Registration District: Sheffield
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 1974

Using a combination of the couple's surnames on FreeBMD, you can find births of children of Lily and Florie.

I can't see any marriage or death definitely for Edith so far.
There are lots of Edith Whittinghams!

??
Florrie Whittingham
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Florrie Whittingham
Registration Date: Apr 1926[May 1926] [Jun 1926]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Spouse: John Handy
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1327


Florrie Handy
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Florrie Handy
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 30 Aug 1903
Residence Date 1939
Address 9 Cox Place.
Residence Place Sheffield, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Line Number 7
Schedule Number 122
Sub Schedule Number 2
Enumeration District Kihn
Borough Sheffield
Registration district Sheffield 510/2
Inferred Spouse
John Handy
Inferred Children
Amy Handy
Household Members (Name) Age
John Handy 39
Florrie Handy 36
This record is officially closed.
Amy Handy 11
This record is officially closed.



Florie Handy
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Florie Handy
Death Age: 92
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1903
Registration Date: Apr 1996
Registration District: Sheffield
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Register Number: B60A
District and Subdistrict: 0481B
Entry Number: 10

By 1939 the parents are in Sheffield: [ In fact, the family is in Sheffield by 1921 - see record posted later ]

Prudence A Whittingham
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Prudence A Whittingham
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 5 Jan 1876
Residence Date 1939
Address 125
Residence Place Sheffield, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation Home Duties
Line Number 18
Schedule Number 6
Sub Schedule Number 2
Enumeration District Kigr
Borough Sheffield
Registration district 510/2
Inferred Spouse
Samuel Whittingham
Inferred Children
Bernard Whittingham
Household Members (Name) Age
Samuel Whittingham 61
Prudence A Whittingham 63
Bernard Whittingham 22
This record is officially closed.

Argyllgran may have found you the right family - using the free website www.freebmd.org.uk may help you follow the family through birth, marriages and deaths for many years.

??? If Derbyshire -

WHITTINGHAM, EDITH mmn MAYBURY
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in CHAPEL-EN-LE-FRITH Volume 07B Page 869


WHITTINGHAM, LILY mmn MAYBURY
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in CHAPEL-EN-LE-FRITH Volume 07B Page 875

WHITTINGHAM, FLORIE mmn MAYBURY
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in CHAPEL-EN-LE-FRITH Volume 07B Page 891

Chapel-en-le-Frith reg district includes Castleton, Derbyshire.


Samuel Whittingham
in the 1911 England Census
Name Samuel Whittingham
Age in 1911 32
Estimated Birth Year abt 1879
Relation to Head Head
Gender Male
Birth Place Castleton, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish Sheffield
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County/Island Yorkshire-West Riding
Country England
Street Address 125 Dykes Hall Rd Hillsborough Sheffield Yorkshire
Marital Status Married
Occupation Draymans Assistant
Registration District Number 510
Sub-registration district Hillsborough
ED, institution, or vessel 09
Piece 27919
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Samuel Whittingham 32 Head
Prudence Annie Whittingham 34 Wife
Samuel Whittingham 13 Son
Lily Whittingham 10 Daughter
Hary [Florie] Whittingham 8 Daughter
Edith Whittingham 4 Daughter
George William Whittingham 2 Son
Albert Whittingham 1/12 Son


Parents' marriage:

Samuel Whittingham
in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name Samuel Whittingham
Gender Male
Marriage Age 20
Birth Date abt 1878
Marriage Date 3 Jul 1898
Marriage Place Fairfield, Derbyshire, England
Father
George Whittingham
Spouse
Prudence Magbury [Maybury ]

Can you give us more to go on, please?


Castleton, Yorkshire?
Castleton, Lancs?
Castleton, Derbyshire?

Are these girls sisters?
Who were their parents?

The ages of the girls in 1908?


You seem to be saying that the family moved away from Castleton in 1908. Do you know where they moved to?

Hi,
I am looking for information on members of the Whittingham family who lived in Castleton until 1908, in particular Edith, Florie and Lily. Would be great to know if they married, had children etc.
Steve