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I have recently found out she died aged 96 in 2012 living in Jersey

She is in a GR member’s tree. get in touch to see whether he knows anything more than has been found on line

Thank you for your help everyone

Name Jasmine Anna Ida Barber
Gender Female
Age 26
Birth Date abt 1916
Record Type Arrival
Arrival Date 15 Oct 1942
Arrival Place Key West, Florida, USA
Ship Nc 25645


Name Jasmine A I Davies
Arrival Age 28
Birth Date abt 1917
Port of Departure New York, New York, USA
Arrival Date 8 Jun 1945
Port of Arrival Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage New York
Ship Name Franconia
Shipping Line Cunard White Star
Official Number 147216
Going to 14, Iverne Gardens, London W8



Name Jasmine Barber
Mother's Name Edith Barber
Spouse's Name Vernon Davies (SqnLdr).Father E J Davies of Harrogate
Marriage Date 2 Nov 1944
Marriage Place Nassau Bahamas


Name Jasmine Davies
Age 28
Birth Date abt 1916
Record Type Arrival
Arrival Date 16 Nov 1944
Arrival Place Key West, Florida, USA
Aircraft: Fl 528

Name Jasmine A I Davies
Event Type Residence
Residence Year 1952
Street Address Safford's Bungalow
Residence Place Cambridgeshire, England
At the same address: Edward D Davies

The woman's first forename is Jasmine on all records found so far...................................bear that in mind if you contact the Jersey authorities

BARBER, JASMINE ANN IDA BLAKE
GRO Reference: 1916 S Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 115

BARBER, ELSIE ELIZABETH LAVENDER JANE BLAKE
GRO Reference: 1921 D Quarter in THANET Volume 02A Page 1763


1921 Census Of England & Wales
1, Ethelbert Road, Birchington, Kent, England
Arthur Vavasour Barber Head Male 1886 35 London, England Banker Employer
Edith Alice Barber Wife Female 1883 38 Wales Home Duties -
Jasmine Ann Ida Barber Daughter Female 1916 4 London, England - -
George Clode-Baker Visitor Male 1865 55 Oporto, Portugal Wine Shipper Employer
Mary Annie Clode-Baker Visitor Female 1882 39 Wales - -
Elizabeth Anna Smith Servant Female 1859 62 Thursley, Surrey, England Housekeeper Private
Eva Nora Ledger Servant Female 1898 22 Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England Nurse (Domestic) Private
Evelyn Kate Manning Servant Female 1907 14 Hare Street, Hertfordshire, England General Domestic Servant Private

As I said earlier, you will need to apply to the Jersey authorities www.gov.je

As you don’t know when she died this could be quite costly.

You may find a death notice in the Jersey Evening Press.

Arthur Vavasour Barber
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and
Administrations), 1858-1995
Name Arthur Vavasour Barber
Death Date 24 Aug 1957
Death Place London, England
Probate Date 21 Oct 1957
Probate Registry London, England

BARBER, Arthur Vavasour of Conchita, North Beeches Road, Crowborough, Uckfield, Sussex, and of care of Messrs Glyn Mills and Company, Kirkland House, Whitehall, London SW1, died 24 August 1957 at Kent and Sussex Hospital, Tunbridge Wells.
Probate London 21 October to Glyns Executor and Trustee Company. Effects £1467 17s 1d.


However, this is no help with finding Ida's death details.

Arthur and Edith Alice must have divorced.


Arthur V Barber
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name Arthur V Barber
Arrival Age 66
Birth Date abt 1886
Port of Departure Trinidad
Arrival Date 7 Dec 1952
Port of Arrival Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage Trinidad and Barbados
Ship Name Golfito
Shipping Line Messrs Elders and Fyffes Ltd
Official Number 182119

Occupaption: banker.
UK address: Honington House, near Bury St Edmunds.
Travelling with Katherine Barber, 59, anaesthetist.



Arthur V Barber
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name Arthur V Barber
Gender Male
Departure Date 2 Jul 1957
Departure Port England
Ship Name Golfito
Shipping Line Elders and Fyffes Limitetd
Destination Port Barbados
Master J P

DOB: 1/12/1885
Banker, retired
UK address: c/o "Conchita", North Beeches Road, Crowborough, Sussex.
Country of intended permanent residence: Dominica.

Travelling with Katherine Barber, 13/9/1899, married, housewife, of same address.

A very basic tree on Ancestry says that Elsie was born 1921, and Ida in 1916.
No place of birth given.
Ida is listed as Jasmine (no Ida) and Elsie just as Elsie.

No other info about them, apart from parents' names: Arthur Varasour Barber(1886–1957) and Edith Alice Blake(1884–1969).

Apparently their father also had a son with an unnamed woman;
Stephen Barber 1915. No POB given.


Arthur V Barber
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Arthur V Barber
Spouse Surname: Blake
Registration Year: 1914
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Paddington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 58
Records on Page:
Name
Arthur V Barber
Edith A Blake

Arthur Varasour Barber
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938
Name Arthur Varasour Barber [Arthur Vavasour Barber]
Gender Male
Marriage Age 28
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1886
Marriage Date 8 May 1914
Marriage Place Christ Church, Lancaster Gate, Westminster, England
Father Robert William Barber
Spouse Edith Alice Blake
Register Type Parish Register


Arthur V Barber
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Arthur V Barber
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 1 Dec
Residence Date 1939
Address 22 Whitehall S.w.1
Residence Place City of Westminster, London, England
Occupation Banker & Army Air Force Asst [ Agent on image]
Line Number 43
Schedule Number 297
Sub Schedule Number 1
Enumeration District Ayuv
Borough City of Westminster
Registration district 6.3
Inferred Spouse
Katherine Barber
Household Members (Name) Age
Arthur V Barber
Katherine Barber 39 - 17 Sept 1900 - voluntary First Aid, and domestic duties

The children had presumably been evacuated.
If they died abroad, their entries (wherever they are) will still be closed.

Arthur's line is scored out on the above record, and a corrected entry made on another page - below:

Arthur V Barber
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Arthur V Barber
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 1 Dec 1885
Residence Date 1939
Address 22 Whitehall S.w.1
Residence Place City of Westminster, London, England
Occupation Banker & Army Air Force Agent
Line Number 17
Schedule Number 297
Sub Schedule Number 1
Enumeration District Ayuv
Borough City of Westminster
Household Members (Name) Age
Arthur V Barber 54

Thank you for your comments as far as I know she died around 2000 or so her maiden name was Barber father's name Arthur V Barber she had a sister Elsie Lavender Barber she also had two children as far as I know they live in the USA-Stephen Marden

If Ida died before 1940 on Jersey you may find the death on www.theislandwinki.org

If she was on the island during occupation then I believe the id cards may be available.

If she died much more recently you will need to apply to the Jersey States authorities.

From the National Archives website

Births, marriages and deaths in the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man
This is a guide to finding records of births, marriages and deaths in the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man. The Channel Islands and the Isle of Man are not part of the United Kingdom and have their own currencies and legal systems, but are dependencies under the Crown. They come under the jurisdiction of the Registrar General of England and Wales for census but not civil registration purposes.

There are NO birth, marriage or death records for the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man available to see online.

In which century, please?

What else is known about the woman?

Birth year, birthplace, married - or not?

Have you done anything yourself in the way of research?

Without any sort of time frame it is.very difficult to point you on the right direction.

The Jersey Heritage website may help you.

Look in search trees which is under the.search heading above the boards to see if anyone has her or any family members in their tree

You can then send a message by clicking on the find out more box

For info the Channel Islands keep their own records and not many are online

I am trying to find out for a friend any information about Ida Jasmine Davies who died on the Island of Jersey would like to know year of death and parish she died in also if anyone had any contacts with her many thanks-Stephen Marden