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help with latin birth transcription

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debra

debra Report 26 Sep 2022 11:28

hello
I am looking for help with a parish record for my ancestor -the transcription is very difficult to read and in latin as a roman catholic birth - please can someone advise me on how I might be able to seek help with translating / deciphering what is written?
thanks for your help

debra

debra Report 26 Sep 2022 11:32

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=S2%2FGBPRS%2FROMCATH%2FWESTMINSTER%2FSTPS_B_1842-1851%2F00183&parentid=PRS%2FROMCATH%2FBAP%2FWESTM%2FPH3%2F068252

here is the link - my ancestor is Patricius Madden born 1847 - thank you for any advice on this I would really appreciate it x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Sep 2022 12:12

Born 29 July 1847, baptised 15 August 1847, Patrick Madden son of ?Patrick Madden and Brigitta (Bridget)
Sisters Joanna Flynn and Catherine Madden

debra

debra Report 26 Sep 2022 12:26

thank you Erika! thats amazing I really am grateful to you xx

debra

debra Report 26 Sep 2022 12:35

hi all,

OK - I am a bit confused now as I have found a second record with same parents names but dated 4 years earlier - in 1843 so I am wondering if this earlier Patricius maybe died - but I can find no death certificate / record?

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=S2%2FGBPRS%2FROMCATH%2FWESTMINSTER%2FSTPS_B_1842-1851%2F00074&parentid=PRS%2FROMCATH%2FBAP%2FWESTM%2FPH3%2F066950
might the death not have been recorded..?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Sep 2022 12:45

Deaths have to be registered for burials to take place.

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Sep 2022 13:10

I read the first baptism with mother, Brigitte once Collarine (ie Maiden name). Sponsors were Joannes (John) Flynn and Catherine Madden.

Could be wrong, latin is a long forgotten subject I took :-) :-)

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Sep 2022 13:17

The second one is

Born the 16 Sept 1843 and baptised on the 24th of the same month, Patrick, son of Patrick Madden and Brigitte (once Cochlan) Sponsors were Daniel Cochlan and Honora Cochlan.

debra

debra Report 26 Sep 2022 14:31

thank you alviegal thats really helpful, I really appreciate your help x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Sep 2022 21:42

Only the second child's birth was registered:

MADDEN, PATRICK mmn CARLON
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in ST.GILES IN THE FIELDS & ST.GEORGE BLOOMSBURY Volume 01 Page 53


Possible death of the 1843 child ??

MADDIN, PATRICK 2
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in ST GILES IN THE FIELDS & ST GEORGE BLOOMSBURY Volume 01 Page 51

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.