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16 Dec 2022 11:40 |
Stan Sandra might not notice your post. If you click on her name you can send her a pm. Genes will then notify her.
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16 Dec 2022 11:36 |
I can't give the sort of detail in the above posts, but you may be interested to learn that Luke Hillary changed his name to Henry Thompson and knocked years off his age, the correct information only coming to light in a correction added to his 1922 death certficate in 1923 following a statutory declaration by Edward Hillary. He marrried my great aunt twice (!), in 1898 and 1914, both times claiming to be a widower, although it seems very unlikrly hat he was actually married to his first "wife", Isabella Robson.
In the 1871 Census Christopher Hillary (18), Mark Hillary (16), Mathew Hillary (8) and Henry D Hillary (3) were with their mother, Hannah Hillary (37). However James, John and Edward were in the Gateshead Industrial School, and had had their ages reduced to 12, 10 and 8 respectively, presumably so James would qualify to be there (committed there under the Industrial School Act 1866).
I have more information if it would be useful.
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8 Sep 2022 15:07 |
Wow thank you all VERY much I'm sure we will get on further now says Sandra / Germny
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8 Sep 2022 14:30 |
Name: David Hillery Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 22 Oct 1826 Baptism Place: Mirfield, St Mary, Yorkshire, England Parish as it Appears: Mirfield, St Mary Search Photos: View Map Father: John Hillery Mother: Sarah Hillery
Name: David Hillary Marriage Age: Full Age Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 30 Aug 1847 Marriage Place: Otley, All Saints, Yorkshire, England Parish as it Appears: Otley, All Saints Search Photos: View Map Father: John Hillary Spouse: Dinah Hannah Myram --- ingram
Dinah Hannah Mother's last name Ingram Last name Ingram Place Merrington Birth year 1827 County Durham Birth date ? ? 1827 Country England Baptism year 1827 Record set Northumberland And Durham Baptisms Baptism date 26 Nov 1827 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Father's first name(s) James Subcategory Parish Baptisms Father's last name - Collections from England, Great Britain Mother's first name(s) Hannah
Name: Dinah Hannah Hillary Registration Year: 1876 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District: Gateshead Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 935 Records on Page: Name John Douglas Dinah Hannah Hillary
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Name: Hannah Douglass Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relationship to Head: Head Gender: Female Where born: Church Merrington, Durham, England Civil Parish: Winlaton County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: 29 Cottage Row Marital status: Widow Education: Employment status: View image Registration District: Gateshead ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: Piece: 5045 Folio: 85 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age Hannah Douglass 43 Mark Hillary 25 Jessie Hillary 25 Edward Hillary 19 Matthew Hillary 17 Henry Douglass 10
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8 Sep 2022 13:58 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Sheriff Hill, Gateshead, Durham, England View original record Household members (8 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place David Hillary Head Married Male 36 1825 Medical botanist Mirfield, Yorkshire, England Hannah Hillary Wife Married Female 34 1827 - Merrington, Durham, England Luke Hillary Son - Male 11 1850 Scholar Gateshead, Durham, England Christopher Hillary Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Gateshead, Durham, England Mark Hillary Son - Male 7 1854 - Gateshead, Durham, England James Hillary Son - Male 4 1857 - Gateshead, Durham, England John Hillary Son - Male 2 1859 - Gateshead, Durham, England Edward Hillary Son - Male 0 1861 - Gateshead, Durham, England
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8 Sep 2022 13:56 |
John Country England Last name Hillary Volume 10A Marriage quarter 3 Volume as transcribed 10A Marriage year 1879 Page number 799 Registration month - Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 MarriageFinder™ John Hillary married one of these people Theodosia Laybourn, Theodosia Labourn, Mary Isabella Cooper Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Gateshead Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce District number - Collections from Great Britain, England County Durham
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Walker Street, Gateshead, Durham, England View original record Household members (6 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Hillary Head Married Male 32 1859 Bricklayer Gateshead, Durham, England Theodosia Hillary Wife Married Female 31 1860 - England John R Hillary Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar England Mark Hillary Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar England Christopher Hillary Son - Male 2 1889 - England Joseph Geo Hillary Son - Male 0 1891 - England
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 9, Morris Street, Gateshead, Durham, England View original record Household members (6 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Hillary Head Married Male 41 1860 Bricklayer Gateshead, Durham, England Theodosia Hillary Wife Married Female 41 1860 - Swalwell, Durham, England Mark Hillary Son Single Male 17 1884 Builders laborer Swalwell, Durham, England Christopher Hillary Son Single Male 13 1888 - Swalwell, Durham, England Joseph Hillary Son - Male 11 1890 - Swalwell, Durham, England Francis Hillary Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Swalwell, Durham, England
1911 Census For England & Wales 30 Dorothy St Gateshead, Gateshead, Durham, England View original record Household members (5 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Hillary Head Married Male 53 1858 Bricklayer Durham Sheriff Hill Theodosha Hillary Wife Married Female 49 1862 - Durham Swalwell Frances A Hillary Daughter Single Female 18 1893 - Durham Gateshead John R Hillary Son Single Male 28 1883 Labouer general Durham Swalwell Mark Hillary Son Single Male 25 1886 Labouer general Durham Swalwell
Theodosia District Gateshead Last name Hillary County Durham Gender Female Volume 10A Birth day - Page 1109 Birth month - Country England Birth year 1864 Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Age 56 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death quarter 1 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Death year 1920
John County Durham Last name Hillary Country England Birth year 1858 Archive Durham University Library Birth date 27 Oct 1858 Archive reference DDR/EA/PBT/2/113 Baptism year 1858 Document type Bishop's Transcripts Baptism date 01 Dec 1858 Register type Baptisms, marriages & burials Father's first name(s) David Register year range 1825-1863 Father's occupation Botanist Page 395 Mother's first name(s) Hannah Record set Durham Baptisms Residence Sheriff Hill Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Gateshead Fell Subcategory Parish Baptisms Denomination Anglican
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8 Sep 2022 06:14 |
By 1901 the family is in Gateshead
32, Rawling Road, Gateshead, Durham, England View original record Add to tree Print More actions Household members (9 people) Copy to clipboard First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Sharkey Head Married Male 46 1855 Tailor Scotland Eliza Sharkey Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Hexham, Northumberland, England Arthur Sharkey Son Single Male 15 1886 Van boy north eastern r'way Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England George F Sharkey Son Single Male 13 1888 Errand boy (tailor's) Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Mary Sharkey Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Joseph R Sharkey Son - Male 4 1897 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Stanley Sharkey Son - Male 3 1898 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Eliza Sharkey Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Gateshead, Durham, England Robert B Sharkey Son - Male 0 1901 - Gateshead, Durham, England
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8 Sep 2022 06:12 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Clarence Place, South Gosforth, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England Household members (9 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Sharkey Head Married Male 37 1854 Tailor Scotland Mary Sharkey Wife Married Female 35 1856 - Ireland James Sharkey Son Single Male 15 1876 - Glanton, Northumberland, England John W Sharkey Son Single Male 14 1877 Photographer Newcastle, Northumberland, England Francis Sharkey Son Single Male 9 1882 Scholar Newcastle, Northumberland, England Arthur Sharkey Son Single Male 6 1885 Scholar Newcastle, Northumberland, England George F Sharkey Son Single Male 3 1888 - Gosforth, Northumberland, England Jane Sharkey Daughter Single Female 3 1888 - Gosforth, Northumberland, England Mary Sharkey Daughter Single Female 0 1891 - Gosforth, Northumberland, England
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8 Sep 2022 06:08 |
1911 census
51 Amberley St Gateshead, Gateshead, Durham, England View original record Add to tree Print More actions Household members (3 people) Copy to clipboard First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Christopher Hillary Head Married Male 23 1888 Labourer Durham Swalwell Mary Hillary Wife Married Female 20 1891 - Northumberland Gosport John Edward Hillary Son - Male 1 1910 - Durham Gateshead
Married 3 years 1 child born
However there no marriage record
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It’s probably this one
Marriages Dec 1907 BILTCLIFFE Jenneta Gateshead 10a 1680 COLTHIRD Annie Gateshead 10a 1680 FERRY William John Gateshead 10a 1680 JACKSON Robert Gateshead 10a 1680 SHARKEY Mary Gateshead 10a 1680
There’s one male missing from the list !
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Mary Sharkey page nos is wrong it’s 1689
So marriages Dec 1907 HILLARY Christopher Gateshead 10a 1689
The Hannah on the same record married a William Liddle , again page nos wasn’t correct for the spouse
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8 Sep 2022 05:56 |
Deaths Mar 1936 Hillary Christopher 48 Gateshead 10a 1110
as he says born Sunderland this is probably his birth
HILLARY, CHRISTOPHER ELVES GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in DURHAM Volume 10A Page 351
However there are other records for that one born Durham
So maybe this birth
HILLARY, CHRISTOPHER LEYBOURN GRO Reference: 1888 J Quarter in GATESHEAD Volume 10A Page 937
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8 Sep 2022 05:52 |
There were more children
20 Upton Street, Gateshead, Durham, England 1921 census badge First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer Christopher Hillary Head Male 1887 34 Sunderland, Durham, England Labourer Newcastle Gaheshed Gas Co Out Of Work - Mary Hillary Wife Female 1890 30 Gosforth, Northumberland, England - - John Edward Hillary Son Male 1909 11 Gateshead, Durham, England - - Christopher Hillary Son Male 1912 9 Gateshead, Durham, England - - Mary Hillary Daughter Female 1915 6 Gateshead, Durham, England - - Joseph Hillary Son Male 1917 3 Gateshead, Durham, England - - George Hillary Son Male 1920 1 Gateshead, Durham, England - -
HILLARY, JOHN EDWARD SHARKEY GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in GATESHEAD Volume 10A Page 961
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8 Sep 2022 05:42 |
1939 register
14 Queen Street, Gateshead, Gateshead C.B., Durham, England Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number Mary Hillary 04 Oct 1890 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 113 1 Joseph Hillary 27 Jul 1917 Male Coalminer Patter Below Ground Single 113 2 Blanche Bright (Hillary) 12 Jun 1924 Female Paper Bag Stringer Single 113 3 Elsie Cable (Hillary) 25 Aug 1926 Female At School Single 113 4 Gordon Hillary 30 Sep 1928 Male At School Single 113 5
he died before his birthdate so the year of birth has been calculated on his age at death
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7 Sep 2022 23:29 |
There are two likely births for the sister of Gordon senior:-
First name(s) Blanche Country England Last name Hillary Volume 10A Birth quarter 3 Page 1816 Birth year 1924 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Mother's maiden name Sharkey Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Gateshead Subcategory Civil Births County Durham Collections from Great Britain, England
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First name(s) Elsie Country England Last name Hillary Volume 10A Birth quarter 4 Page 1567 Birth year 1926 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Mother's maiden name Sharkey Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Gateshead Subcategory Civil Births County Durham Collections from Great Britain, England
I still can't find a Ruth with the same mother's maiden name.
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7 Sep 2022 23:12 |
This looks like his marriage:-
First name(s) Gordon County Lancashire Last name Hillary Country England Marriage quarter 3 Volume 10C Marriage year 1948 Volume as transcribed 10C Registration month - Page number 217 MarriageFinder™ Gordon Hillary married one of these people Morag C Dingwall Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Spouse's last name Dingwall Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Crosby Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce District number - Collections from Great Britain, England
and this looks like his birth (although I can't find a birth for a sister called Ruth with the same mother's maiden name):-
First name(s) Gordon Country England Last name Hillary Volume 10A Birth quarter 4 Page 1428 Birth year 1928 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Mother's maiden name Sharkey Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Gateshead Subcategory Civil Births County Durham Collections from Great Britain, England
This could possibly be his death (although out by one year but it seems the informant wasn't too sure about date of birth):-
First name(s) Gordon District Crosby Last name Hillary County Lancashire Gender Male Volume 10C Birth day - Page 96 Birth month - Country England Birth year 1929 Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Age 20 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death quarter 1 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Death year 1949 Collections from Great Britain, England
All the certificates can be bought from the GRO at:-
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
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7 Sep 2022 21:25 |
Trying to help my cousin find his father Gordon Hillary.. Gordon was from Gateshead and had a sister Ruth. He was born around 1927 , was in the Air Force , had red wavy hair and married Morag Dingwall about 1948 in Liverpool. Their son Gordon was born in June 1949, unfortunately the father Gordon had died from pneumonia before the baby son was born. Any help would be very much appreciated says Sandra / Germany
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