Genealogy Chat

Had to go offline after my last post yesterday and only just managed to get back on. You two are geniuses. It just shows what you can find when you really know what you are doing. I am really grateful to you as I have been trying to find this information for about 10 years now. Sarah was my partners mothers sister. We didnt even know of her existence until I started the family tree as her mother had never mentioned having a sister. They both had a bad start in life being put in different childrens homes in Liverpool. Their mother died in 1911 and their father went into the workhouse where he was for years in and out and eventually died there.So pleased as you say that she made something of her life as did my partners mother who went into service and eventually made quite a good marriage and lived til she was 88 ending her life with us.

There were three McCrone births in Auchinleck in the 1950s - but I'm pretty sure they're the children of a different couple (bride's mn Nimmo) who married in Auchinleck in 1952.

One of the children, James, was definitely their child, per his death.

I suspect Robert and Sarah didn't have children.

7 Old Avenue and neighbouring houses were council-owned - and seem to be so still, as none in that row have been sold, per Zoopla and other sites.

Sorn Road crosses Old Avenue at right angles, and "Glenafton" still has the name above the door. (per Streetview)
Mauchline Road meets the end of Sorn Road at right angles.

Valuation rolls from Scotland's People site Credits required to view further details

1940 (latest online)

?? note spelling of surname
Surname Forename Title Status Place Parish Year Reference Number Image View
MACCRONE ROBERT Tenant HOUSE 7 OLD AVENUE AUCHINLECK 1940 VR009000229-

Also a Charles MacCrone House 97 Dalsalloch in Auchinleck

Both are Tenant Occupiers

1935 - Robert and Charles as above plus James MacCrone - Proprietor Occupier - at house Glenafton 28 Sorn Road

1930 - Robert House 2 Mauchline Road, James as above and a John at House 212 Dalsalloch

1925 - John and James only in Auchinleck, address as above

Various other MacCrones elsewhere - far fewer McCrones

It's good to know that she made a successful life for herself after an unpromising start.

You beat me to it AG!

The UK and Ireland Nursing Registers 1898 - 1968 on Ancestry have a Sarah Meadly
living at 7 Old Avenue Auchinleck in 1943 (though image says 1949-50 supplement), at Oakhill Nursing Association, Oakhill Park, Liverpool in 1948, and as Sarah McCrone nee Meadly back at 7 Old Avenue. Auchinleck in 1965.

So it looks probable she was the Sarah living at 24 Dovercliffe Rd in 1939.

Can't c & p as on tablet

She moved to Scotland.


Marriage:

MEADLEY SARAH
MCCRONE ROBERT
1949
577/1 3
Auchinleck


Death:

MCCRONE SARAH [ also listed as MEADLY ]
78
mmn LLOYD
1984
679/ 67
Auchinleck


You can buy the certificates via https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
at £12 each.

Aha! Here's Ancestry's mistranscription of the whole household!

I'll submit a lot of corrections. Margaret Bateman is the only one transcribed correctly:

Sarah McAsery
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Sarah McAsery
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 9 Aug 1907
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 24 [ Dovercliffe Road]
Residence Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Children's Nurse
Line Number: 41
Schedule Number: 221
Sub Schedule Number: 5
Enumeration District: Nivl
Borough: Liverpool
Registration district: 455/7
Household Members Age
William Gillers 52
Florence Gillers 48
Nancy B Gillers 11
Margt E Bateman 47
Sarah McAsery 32

Katqueen -

re the Sarah stated as born 1908, found by Kucinta in 1939 -

don't be put off getting your Sarah's 1906 birth cert by the different year stated.
The 1939 register often has slightly incorrect years of birth.
The day and month are more likely to be correct, so it's worth getting the birth cert in order to know them.

Get her birth cert for exact DoB to enable a 1939 search

The second Sarah that AG found, at 24 Dovercliffe Rd, is recorded there on the 1939 register on FMP as

Sarah Mcadley, 9th Aug 1908, single, children's nurse

Living with William Gillies and family.

The first Sarah AG found, last seen at 50, Ashfield, was no longer there on the 1939 register.

Not at the earlier ER addresses AG posted, in the 1939 register either.

I can't see her in the 1939 Register - though her DOB might have helped.

Thanks so much for all your help. I keyed in 1905 instead of 1906 and it came up. I paid for the full record and it is definitely our Sarah as she is an inmate in the same childrens home. I think very probably all the later ones are her too but I lose her after that as there are no marriage or death records that I can find. You have been a great help as I was upset when I couldnt find her in the 1921 census.

FMP is the only site which has the 1921 census.

No need to have a sub, or to sign in.
The basic search is free, but everyone has to pay to see the actual records, whether they have an FMP sub or not.

Was that on Find my Past please. I keyed her in as soon as it came out and again today with all surname variations and it just came back no record. Will try again now. If it is her it sounds as if she might still have been in the childrens home in Wavertree as she would still have been 15. I do have her birth certificate filed away but am laid up with a broken leg at the moment so cannot get to it.

Ah, I see her parents' marriage, mis-spelled:

Marriages Jun 1897 (>99%)
Lloyd Ann Liverpool 8b 100
Mealey Thomas Liverpool 8b 100

I say mis-spelled - but there are several different records of the banns and the marriage, and all spell his name Mealey.

I've told you above -
it's on the 1921 census.

Search with the name and YOB given in the transcription I posted.

If you want to see the actual image, you'll have to pay-per-view on FMP.

Have seen all those entries too but like you had no way of knowing if it is my Sarah. Did you see my message asking where you saw a record of her in 1921. Would love to see it if you can find it again.

Do you have her FULL date of birth?

It might help to trace her in 1939 or at death.

The record of her in Wavertree in 1921 is from the 1921 census.

Note the spelling of her name.

She was born in July 1906 and her parents were married on 20th June 1897