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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Apr 2022 13:57

Name: Beatrice Winifred A Lara
Death Age: 83
Birth Date: 25 Aug 1924
Registration Date: Jan 2007
Registration District: Southend/sea
Inferred County: Essex
Register Number: D22C
District and Subdistrict: 475/1D
Entry Number: 181

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Apr 2022 11:11

1911 Census For England & Wales
192 Ramsay Road Forest Gate E, Cann Hall, London & Essex, England

Herbert Arthur Hiscock Head Married Male 29 1882 Grocer assitant Brighton Sussex
Harriet Elizabeth Hiscock Wife Married Female 35 1876 - Reading Oxfordshire
Beatrice Marian Hiscock Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Leytonstone Essex
Herbert John Hiscock Son - Male 0 1911 - Leytonstone Essex


HISCOCK, LILIAN MAY FARMER
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 326

HISCOCK, LILIAN MAY 1
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 201

Name: Herbert John Hiscock
Birth Date: 23 Nov
Baptism Date: 18 Jan 1911
Baptism Place: Essex, England
Father: Herbert Arthur Hiscock
Mother: Harriet Elizabeth Hiscock

Deaths Mar 1938 (>99%)
HISCOCK John H 26 Stepney 1c 222

Sending you image of his Probate

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Apr 2022 09:29

Beatrice’s 1906 birth is on page one, with MMN. And her baptism

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Apr 2022 09:00

name(s) Beatrice Marion
District Brighton
Last name Ward
County Sussex
Gender Female
Volume 18
Birth day 31
Page 0008
Birth month 3
Country England
Birth year 1906
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Age -
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death quarter 2
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Death year 1978
Collections from Great Britain,

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Apr 2022 08:39



Not transcribed correctly
As previously posted
Parents are Charles AG Ward dob 14.5.1892 occ bus conductor and Beatrice M born 31.3. 1906

So
Here is Beatrice M birth

Births Jun 1906
Hiscock Beatrice Marion W. Ham 4a 350


Can’t see she actually married Charles. Maybe because he was still married ?

Maria

Maria Report 2 Apr 2022 20:00

Thanks everyone I’ve found out what I need
Maria

Maria

Maria Report 2 Apr 2022 19:40

Hi kath
I don’t know how to look for this x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Apr 2022 18:17

I'd say there is at least one child (a girl) from the Bishop marriage. It was in Ilford (where the marriage took place) in 1945.

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2022 17:47

Can’t see Beatrice (1906) on 1921 census

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2022 17:15

You are wrong to assume there were no CHILDREN...you've been advised where to look

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2022 17:14

Name: Herbert A Hiscock
Death Age: 66
Birth Date: abt 1882
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun 1948
Registration District: essex South Western
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 5a
Page: 141

Maria

Maria Report 2 Apr 2022 17:13

Yes the Lara marriage is my uncle, so I assume her marriage to George bishop ended in divorce, and they had no kids. That’s very interesting about he4 maybe being adopted
Thank you all for your help

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Apr 2022 17:09

A previous wife for Charles?

Charles Albert Gerald Ward
in the UK, British Army World War I Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: Charles Albert Gerald Ward
Gender: Male
Enlistment Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1890
Marriage Date: 22 Mar 1915
Marriage Place: East Dulwich
Document Date: 1915
Residence Place: 34 Pellett Road, East Dulwich SE
Military Date: 1915
Relationship to Soldier: Self (Head)
Regimental Number: 206269
Regiment Name: Royal Artillery (Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery)
Number of Images: 19
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Charles Albert Gerald Ward Self (Head)
Beatrice Alice Mulligan Spouse


Beatrice A Mulligan
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Beatrice A Mulligan
Spouse Surname: Ward
Registration Year: 1915
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1209
Records on Page:
Name
Beatrice A Mulligan
Gerald C Ward


Re Beatrice Winifred in 1939 - yes, I didn't notice the small ditto mark standing for her original surname of Ward.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2022 17:05

HISCOCK, BEATRICE MARION FARMER
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 350

Name: Beatrice Marian Hiscock
Baptism Age: 0
Birth Date: 31 Mar 1906
Baptism Date: 27 May 1906
Baptism Place: Essex, England
Father: Herbert Arthur Hiscock
Mother: Harriett Elizabeth Hiscock

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2022 17:02

She isn't listed as Bishop in 1939. Bishop is one of the name 'changes'

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2022 17:00


1939 Register
27 Cecil Road, Ilford, Ilford M.B., Essex, England
Charles A G Ward 14 May 1892 Male Bus Conductor London Passenger Transport Board Married 196 1
Beatrice M Ward 31 Mar 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 196 2
Beatrice Winifred Lara (Bishop) 25 Aug 1924 Female Seeking Work Not Presently Employe Single 196 3

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Apr 2022 17:00

So it looks as though Beatrice Winifred may have been adopted (?) by Charles and Beatrice Ward - though why she's listed as Bishop in 1939, I can't imagine.

EDIT:

No, in light of later posts, she was Ward in 1939, and later Bishop and then Lara.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2022 16:54

The second marriage was to LARA...............I assumed that was known

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Apr 2022 16:54

Charles Albert G Ward
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Charles Albert G Ward
[Charles Albert Gerald Ward]
Registration Date: 1892
Quarter of the Year: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Place: Camberwell, London, England
Mother: Hill
Volume: 1d
Page: 841


Charles Albert Gerald Ward
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1920
Name: Charles Albert Gerald Ward
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 13 Jun 1894
Baptism Place: St Giles, Camberwell, Southwark, England
Father: Albert Edward Ward
Mother: Caroline Ward
Register Type: Parish Register


???
Charles Ward
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Charles Ward
Registration Date: Oct 1929[Nov 1929] [Dec 1929]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Romford
Inferred County: Essex
Spouse: Beatrice M Ford
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 1265


Charles A G Ward
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Charles A G Ward
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 14 May 1892
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 27 Cecil Rd
Residence Place: Ilford, Essex, England
Occupation: Bus Conductor Lp T B
Line Number: 2
Schedule Number: 196
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: Ccvb
Borough: Ilford
Registration district: 191/2
Inferred Spouse:
Beatrice M Ward
Household Members Age
Charles A G Ward 47
Beatrice M Ward 33


Charles A G Ward
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Charles A G Ward
[Charles Albert Gerald Ward]
Death Age: 71
Birth Date: abt 1893
Registration Date: Jan 1964[Feb 1964] [Mar 1964]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Brighton
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 142

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2022 16:52

WARD, MABEL GERALDINE HISCOCK
GRO Reference: 1928 J Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 466