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I wonder if someone could do me a kindness and check census records, maybe on Ancestry, please?

I have a William Lloyd Lewis born 1860-61 Islington.

On the 1901 Census, which I presume is him, he is widower, livjng with his widowed mother Mary Ann, born in Marylebone.

In 1896 he married Sarah Ann Cooper 1873 (who I am pretty sure is 'my' Sarah Ann) dau. of George and Mary Ann of Islington. 1881 and 1891 Pleasant Passage, Islington. 1891 Sarah had moved to an ajacent street.

In 1898 she appears to have died, as she was still young, I wonder if she died in childbirth.

I believe church records are on Ancestry, so confirmation of marriage would be appreciated.

As Sarah Ann Cooper is a pretty common name, I have ordered quite a few 'duff' certificates.

I do hope I have made myself clear, as I will not be back on Genes for a few hours.

Any information from you kind people would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Only the Civil record of the marriage on Ancestry

No Lewis/Cooper births in the area in 1898.

Look for info on the GRO site

Just looked in before I go out.

Thank you Erika, I guessed that would be the answer. There was nothing on FreeBMD.

Appreciated.

Any census returns for Wm. L. Lewis would be greatly received. Thank you.

It would be really helpful if you posted the census info to which you refer

Thank you Erika. I think I have the 1901, and believe he was born in 1860, so any of the interim would be great. I really want his parents. Thanks.

1901 I have them in Stoke Newington.

Can't even find the one you refer to - please C&P ALL censuses
No death in 1898 for Sarah Ann Lewis of the right age......................

OK.....finally.

Sarah was older than you suggest if the age on here is accurate

1881

Name: Sarah A. Cooper
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: George Cooper
Mother: Mary A. Cooper
Gender: Female
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 29 Campbell Road
Occupation: Scholar
Registration District: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 36a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 260
Folio: 13
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
George Cooper 32..................born JERSEY
Mary A. Cooper 27
George Cooper 13
Sarah A. Cooper 9
Emma Cooper 2

Still here, my pal has got held up in traffic!

That is the correct Sarah Ann, sometimes, Sally, sometimes Suranne!

Still need you to post 1901, please

Name: George Cooper
Gender: Male
Age: 42
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1849
Spouse:
Mary A Cooper
Child:
Emma Cooper
Birth Place: Kingsland, London, England
Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabus
Residence Place: London, Islington, London, England
Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Highbury
ED, Institution or Vessel: 32
Piece: 177
Folio: 185
Household Members Age Relationship
George Cooper 42 Head
Mary A Cooper 37 Wife
Emma Cooper 12 Daughter

Yep not sure about the Jersey. Later census have his birth as Islington.

Emma married a Randall.

So rry Erika, I did not download the 1901. I dont often ask for help, so forgive my lack of info.

I have the address as 50 Lordship Road, Stoke Newington, London.

50, Lordship Road Stoke Newington in 1901

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Lewis Head Married Male 73 1828 Boot maker & dealer Holborn, Middlesex, England
Sarah Lewis Wife Married Female 55 1846 - Hackney, Middlesex, England

1911

Name: William Lloyd Lewis
Age in 1911: 83
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Andrew
Civil Parish: Stoke Newington
Country: England
Street Address: 50 Lordship Rd, Stoke Newington N
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Boot Maker And Dealer
Registration District Number: 11
Sub-registration District: Stoke Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Piece: 1010
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lloyd Lewis 83
Sarah Ann Lewis 66

Married 14 complete years...........which is the 1896 marriage

Rules out the possibility of it being the Sarah Ann Cooper you're researching

The man's first wife's death

Name: Anna Lavinia Lewis
Death Date: 29 May 1891
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 18 Jun 1891
Probate Registry: Principal Registry

My pal has just arrived.

Sorry Erika I seem to have gone awry somehow. Thank you for you time and postings. Back to the drawing board, I seem to have taken a wrong turn somehow.

Thanks again.

We all do it.................part of the 'fun'

It also rules out the William Lloyd Lewis who married Sarah - he was born c1828, per 1911 - not c1860.


Probably his mother's death in 1904, as they're in Barnet RD in 1901:

Deaths Mar 1904 (>99%)
Lewis Mary Ann 69 Barnet 3a 185

For our reference:

William L Lewis
in the 1901 England Census
Name: William L Lewis
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Mother: Mary A Lewis
Birth Place: Islington, London, England
Civil Parish: Totteridge
Ecclesiastical parish: Totteridge St Andrew
Town: Totteridge
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration District: Barnet
Sub-registration District: South Mimms
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Piece: 1229
Folio: 133
Page Number: 10
Household Schedule Number: 55
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary A Lewis 67
William L Lewis 40 - living on own means, widower
Mary J Goldsmith 28
Louisa Pawsey 18
Albert Rose 27


There's no birth of a William LLOYD Lewis c1860.

But there is this child:

LEWIS, WILLIAM LANDER mmn LANDER
GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 223


Marriages Sep 1858 (>99%)
Lander Mary Ann Clerkenwell 1b 759
Lewis William Dix Clerkenwell 1b 759


Wm L Lewis
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Wm L Lewis
Age: 8/12
Estimated Birth Year: 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Wm D Lewis
Mother's Name: Mary A Lewis
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: Islington
Sub-registration District: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 43
Piece: 128
Folio: 1
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm D Lewis 29
Mary A Lewis 26
Mary A Lewis 1
Wm L Lewis 8/12
Lydia Hunt 19
Luisa P P Bailey 13


Will L Lewis
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Will L Lewis
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: 1861
Relation: Son
Gender: Male
Where born: London England
Civil parish: Islington Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 218
Piece: 254
Folio: 18
Page number: 31
Household Members Age Relationship
William D Lewis 39 Head
Mary A Lewis 36 Wife
Mary A Lewis 11 Daughter
Will L Lewis 10 Son
Emily C Lewis 9 Daughter
Henry E Lewis 7 Son
Ada E Lewis 6 Daughter
Edith L Lewis 5 Daughter
Florence E Lewis 3 Daughter
Emily Campling 19 Nurse
Rose Wheatley 19 Housemaid
Caroline Welch 30 Cook


William L. Lewis
in the 1881 England Census
Name: William L. Lewis
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William D. Lewis
Mother: Mary A. Lewis
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Bolington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 68 Highbury Park
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Clerk
Registration District: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors:
Piece: 255
Folio: 112
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
William D. Lewis 49
Mary A. Lewis 46
Mary A. Lewis 21
William L. Lewis 20 - clerk
Emily E. Lewis 19
Henry E. Lewis 17
Ada E. Lewis 16
Florence E. Lewis 13
Grace Werbly 22
Leonora Smith 22
Rose Codlin 18



William Lander Lewis
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: William Lander Lewis
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 698
Records on Page:
Name
William Lander Lewis
Lydia Maria Naunton



Deaths Mar 1890 (>99%)
Lewis Lydia Maria 28 Hackney 1b 335

William Lander Lewis
in the 1911 England Census
Name: William Lander Lewis
Age in 1911: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Islington, London, England
Civil Parish: Monken Hadley
Country: England
Street Address: Felday, Woodville Road, New Barnet, Herts
Marital status: Widowed
Occupation: Painter Artist
Registration District Number: 131
Sub-registration District: Barnet
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Piece: 7148
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lander Lewis 50 - painter, artist
Clara Harriett Lewis 72 - aunt, single
Ellen Elizabeth Garrett 52 - visitor, married, London, Holloway
Alice Boston 27


Willam L Lewis
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Willam L Lewis
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widow
Birth Date: 12 Aug 1860
Residence Date: 1939
Address: Edmondsham
Residence Place: Wimborne and Cranborne, Dorset, England
Occupation: Private Means, artist (Retired)
Line Number: 8
Schedule Number: 16
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: WLNM
Borough: Wimborne and Cranborne
Registration district: 259/3
Household Members Age
Jon Carroll 65
Evelyn F Carroll 45
Willam L Lewis 79


Death:

LEWIS, WILLIAM LANDER 82
GRO Reference: 1943 J Quarter in BLANDFORD Volume 05A Page 235


William Lander Lewis
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Name: William Lander Lewis
Death Date: 17 Jun 1943
Death Place: Dorset, England
Probate Date: 25 Aug 1943
Probate Registry: Llandudno

Probate to Reginald Sillifant Garret, retired Indian Railway officer.

Reginald is the son of Ellen Elizabeth Garrett who is with William in 1911.

Reg: S Garrett
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Reg: S Garrett [Reginald Sillifant Garrett]
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 9 May 1881
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 92
Residence Place: Poole, Dorset, England
Occupation: Loco Supt India (Rtd)
Line Number: 43
Schedule Number: 325
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: WKES
Borough: Poole
Registration district: 261-2
Household Members Age
Ellen E Garrett 79
Reg: S Garrett 58
??: E Green 29


GARRETT, REGINALD PILLIFANT mmn PILLIFANT
GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 428