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jim
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27 Jul 2021 02:07 |
does anyone have any info on what happened as i can find no record of death or transportation Norfolk Chronicle Norfolk, England 11 Aug 1821
CAMBRIDGE, Aug 9 Saml. Peck, and Robert Ashford for burglaries, Stephen Rippou for sheep-stealing, Peter Youngs for a highway robbery, and Richard Lofts for stealing a banknote, were capitally convicted and received sentence of death.
Death Sentences - 1821 02 Richard Lofts Summer 1821 Cambridgeshire, England
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nameslessone
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27 Jul 2021 09:07 |
Would an executed felon have a Christian burial in a churchyard?
The record books on ancestry often show when a sentence has been changed. Have you tried the local records office?
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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27 Jul 2021 09:10 |
The actual record just shows there were all convicted of stealing from a dwelling house and sentence was death
No further details given
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nameslessone
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27 Jul 2021 09:52 |
I've just googled and it seems that executed prisoners were buried within the Prison. I can't do a link as it seems to be an insecure site. But if Jim wants to look it is capitalpunishmentuk/org
There is also this:
www.prisonhistory.org/prison/cambridge-county-gaol-and-house-of-correction/
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2021 10:07 |
A little contradictory - but for what's it's worth -
"From 1752 the bodies of executed murderers were not returned to their relatives for burial. Murder was considered to be a specially heinous crime and the government did not want the bodies of murderers to have a full funeral, be buried in consecrated ground or to "lay in state". Nor I suspect did they really want families to know what had really happened to their loved ones once executions became private.
On balance it was probably the sensible decision not to release the bodies. Many families would have felt a great sense of shame about one their number being executed for committing murder, many would have also been too poor to afford a funeral and perhaps a few would have sought to profit from the situation by selling the body or involving the press in some way. Also, particularly where a full autopsy had been carried out (in 20th century London executions) the body would hardly have been a pretty sight.
Up to 1832, except in a case of murderer where the court had ordered dissection or gibbeting (see above), it was usual for the criminal's body to be claimed by friends or relatives for burial. This burial could take place in consecrated ground. In earlier times (pre 1752) it was not unusual for murderers to be buried under the gallows on which they had suffered.
Dissection was removed from the statute book on the 1st of August 1832, by the Anatomy Act. The same act directed that the bodies of all executed criminals belonged to the Crown and were now to be buried in the prison grounds in unmarked graves, often several to a grave to save space." https://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/hanging1.html
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2021 10:15 |
Beside the word "Death" in the original record, there's the letter R.
I wonder if that means "reprieved". If it meant RIP, I would have thought that would be written in full.
All 8 death sentences in the 10-page document have R beside them.
Richard Lofts in the England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 Name: Richard Lofts Date of Trial: Summer 1821 Trial Year: 1821 Location of Trial: Cambridgeshire, England Sentence: Death
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2021 10:23 |
Yes, I think R means Reprieved.
Here's Richard's fellow-criminal Samuel Peck:
Samuel Peck in the UK, Prison Hulk Registers and Letter Books, 1802-1849 Name: Samuel Peck Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Date Received: 22 Sep 1821 Ship: Leviathan Place Moored: Portsmouth Date Convicted: 6 Aug 1821 Place Convicted: Cambridge
Robert Ashford and Edward Moore are on the same record. All sentenced to "Life".
All were sentenced to death (R) at the same time as Richard, per the court record.
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jul 2021 10:35 |
Posting just in case this is the same Richard:
Richard Lofts in the UK, Prison Commission Records, 1770-1951 Name: Richard Lofts Marital Status: Single Criminal Admission Age: 50 Record Type: Register Birth Date: abt 1800 Criminal Charge: Breaking [ windows ] Sentence: 14 Days Criminal Admission Date: 11 Apr 1850 Jail: Oxford Gaol Source Description: Oxford Gaol, Oxfordshire: Register of Prisoners Abode: Wood Ditton, Cambridgeshire.
Height 5' 6.25 " Sallow complexion, brown hair, grey eyes. Single.
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ErikaH
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27 Jul 2021 12:30 |
If you think this man is your relation - when was he born, and where?
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Maddie
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27 Jul 2021 12:56 |
a suggested hint from fmp
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Whitechapel Road, Whitechapel, London & Middlesex, Englan First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Richard Lofts Head Widower Male 50 1801 Tobacconist Sawston, Cambridgeshire, England R Lofts Son Unmarried Male 23 1828 Engraver silver plate Stepney, Middlesex, England
1861 5, Jamaica Terrace, Limehouse, Stepney, London & Middlesex, England View original record Transcript of Richard's record First name(s) Richard Last name Lofts Relationship Lodger Marital status Widower Sex Male Age 59 Birth year 1802 Birth town Sawston Birth town as transcribed SAWSTON Birth county Cambridgeshire Birth county as transcribed CAMBRIDGESHIRE Birth place other England
Richard Last name Lofts Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year - Age - Death quarter 2 Death year 1865 District Stepney
son Richard Last name Lofts Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1828 Baptism date 03 Feb 1828 Place Stepney County London Country England Father's first name(s) Richard Father's last name Lofts Mother's first name(s) Emily
Richard Last name Lofts Birth year 1801 Birth date 27 Jan 1801 Baptism year 1801 Baptism date 05 Apr 1801 Abode - Place Sawston Father's first name(s) John Father occupation - Mother's first name(s) Mary
Name: Richard Lofts Age: 64 Birth Date: abt 1801 Burial Date: 1865 Burial Place: London, England Reference Number: CTHC/01/112,113
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KathleenBell
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27 Jul 2021 15:07 |
I guess this is the site you found Richard Loft's name on:-
https://oldbritishnews.com/death-sentences-1820/death-sentences-1821-02/
There is an online form that you can fill in and they will let you know if they find any other details about him.
Kath. x
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Maddie
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27 Jul 2021 17:38 |
Samuel Last name Peck Birth year - Arrival year 1822 Ship name Phoenix Where convicted Cambridge When convicted 1821 Sentence 7 years State New South Wales Country Australia Record set New South Wales And Tasmania: Settlers And Convicts 1787-1859
Samuel Last name Peck Supplied full name Peck, Samuel Sex Male Year 1822 Departure date 5 Jan 1822 Departure port Portsmouth Arrival date 20 May 1822 Voyage number 21 Ship name Phoenix (1)
Robert Last name Ashford Supplied full name Ashford, Robert Sex Male Year 1822 Departure date 5 Jan 1822 Departure port Portsmouth Arrival date 20 May 1822 Voyage number 21 Ship name Phoenix (1)
Edward Last name Moore Supplied full name Moore, Edward Sex Male Year 1822 Departure date 5 Jan 1822 Departure port Portsmouth Arrival date 20 May 1822 Voyage number 21 Ship name Phoenix (1)
there are no records for richard lofts being transported
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jim
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29 Aug 2021 07:10 |
Thank you all for your help - it has opened a few lines of enquiry and will let you all know if successful regards Jim
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