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Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,502 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	15 Jan 2021 16:26
	The parents' marriage RUSSELL ALEXANDER DALE GRACE 1901 494/2 12 Renton Thomas was divorced when he married Annie..............how did he manage that? He was baptised RC
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,502 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	15 Jan 2021 16:12
	For time-scale marriage RUSSELL THOMAS DALE EVANS ANNIE 1941 685/6 40 Newington Birth RUSSELL THOMAS DALE M 1902 496/ 544 Dumbarton Baptism RUSSELL THOMAS DALE ----- -----/----- ----- M 8/10/1902 5/6/1912 Glasgow, Immaculate Conception (RC) Death RUSSELL THOMAS DALE 80 DALE 1983 746/ 648 Newington Only one marriage on SP for his name in full
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 4,759 Send Message	Tawny	Report	15 Jan 2021 15:54
	Thomas Dale Russell married Annie Evans in Edinburgh and that is where he and Annie’s four children were born. Annie was Thomas’ second wife and he was almost 50 when his youngest child was born. I will check the Russell side as well just in case. Any aunt of my father in law could in theory have been almost 60 when he was born.
	Researching: No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled. Nor will we proceed with force against him except by the lawful judgement of his equals or by the law of the land. To no one will we sell, to no one deny or delay right or justice.
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,278 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	15 Jan 2021 14:57
	IF Dolly was indeed an aunt of your father-in-law, perhaps she was from the Russell side of the family? For example, IF the name Dolly bore any relation to her real name, there was a Euphemia Dorothy Russell born in Edinburgh in 1900, a Doris Margaret in 1903, a Doris Muriel in 1911, a Dolina in 1923, a Dorothy in 1923, a Dolina in 1925, a Dorothy in 1928. EDIT: Though maybe Edinburgh is a red herring, as Thomas Dale Russell was born in Dumbarton, in 1902. No female Russells with a Dolly-type name born in Dumbarton. You might have to delve further back into the Russells - a great-aunt??
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 4,759 Send Message	Tawny	Report	15 Jan 2021 14:02
	I’ll see what I can find on the cousin.
	Researching: No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled. Nor will we proceed with force against him except by the lawful judgement of his equals or by the law of the land. To no one will we sell, to no one deny or delay right or justice.
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,502 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	15 Jan 2021 13:59
	Perhaps it would be useful to research the newly-found 'cousin'
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 4,759 Send Message	Tawny	Report	15 Jan 2021 13:33
	Thank you all for the information. My father in law is the youngest of Annie’s children. He has decided at the age of 70 after randomly meeting a man at the funny handshake club who is most likely a cousin that he wants to trace the family tree. Father in law can’t tell me much and his older siblings either can’t or won’t tell him much. Yesterday father in law spoke to his sister Pam and she said there was an Aunt Dolly so if she wasn’t family it sounds like none of them were aware of that fact but it is entirely possible.
	Researching: No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled. Nor will we proceed with force against him except by the lawful judgement of his equals or by the law of the land. To no one will we sell, to no one deny or delay right or justice.
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,278 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	15 Jan 2021 12:04
	I've edited my previous post re the 1916 birth of Marion Gwyndolyn - not the same family - her parents were Owen and Louise.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 26,340 Send Message	Gwyn in Kent	Report	15 Jan 2021 11:53
	I knew a lady who was called Dolly. I have seen a copy of her son's marriage certificate ( in NZ) where she was named as Dorothy,(with correct maiden name ) probably because that was presumed to be her 'correct' name. She was in fact Sarah Jane.
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,502 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	15 Jan 2021 11:53
	EVANS VICTOR REGINALD 49 1947 685/6 833 Newington EVANS MARY AGNES MCD 71 1959 685/1 727 Haymarket Do you know who registered the mother's death?
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,278 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	15 Jan 2021 11:52
	I remember that similar thread, ErikaH. Not the same family, though. No solution was found. https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1387939
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,502 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	15 Jan 2021 11:49
	EVANS SYDNEY M 1919 501/ 316 Old or West Kilpatrick ABLE SEAMAN SYDNEY EVANS Service Number: P/SSX 19345 Regiment & Unit/Ship Royal Navy H.M.S. Fidelity Date of Death Died 01 January 1943 Age 23 Buried or commemorated at PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL Panel 74, Column 2. United Kingdom Country of Service United Kingdom Additional Info Son of Victor R. and Mary Evans, of Edinburgh.
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,502 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	15 Jan 2021 11:43
	There was a very similar query on here quite recently................
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,278 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	15 Jan 2021 11:43
	Do you know when the family moved to Edinburgh? It appears from ERs that they were there by 1920: Victor R Evans in the Edinburgh, Scotland, Electoral Registers, 1832-1966 Name: Victor R Evans Residence Date: 1920-1921 Street Address: Cluny Place 17 A Residence Place: Edinburgh, Scotland Cluny Place is in the Morningside area. Just posting as a long shot - there is this birth in the Morningside RD: EVANS MARION GWYNDOLY[n] F 1916 685/4 383 St Giles EVANS MARION GWYNDOLY[n] F 1916 685/6 298 Morningside EDIT: NO, not her. I've had a look, and her parents were Owen and Louise.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,278 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	15 Jan 2021 11:25
	The father's birth? EVANS VICTOR REGINALD M 1887 503/ 83 Row or Rhu and his marriage - for date: EVANS VICTOR REGINALD O'BRIEN MARY AGNES MCDO 1906 646/3 349 Partick In 1911: EVANS VICTOR R 1911 M 23 501/ 25/ 1 Old or West Kilpatrick Dunbarton EVANS VICTOR 1911 M 0 501/ 25/ 1 Old or West Kilpatrick Dunbarton EVANS MARY 1911 F 23 501/ 25/ 1 Old or West Kilpatrick Dunbarton So whoever Dolly was, she wasn't in that family in 1911. I'm inclined to agree with Kath and ErikaH. "Dolly" may only have been a family friend, and her name may bear no relation to "Dolly" if that was just her "pet" name.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,502 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	15 Jan 2021 11:22
	These are all the female births in the area in a possible time-scale EVANS ELLEN MARY F 1911 501/ 824 Old or West Kilpatrick View image (6 credits) EVANS JANET F 1911 501/ 964 Old or West Kilpatrick View image (6 credits) EVANS CATHERINE F 1913 501/ 750 Old or West Kilpatrick View image (6 credits) EVANS MARGARET F 1914 501/ 830 Old or West Kilpatrick View image (6 credits) EVANS ELLEN F 1915 501/ 1014 Old or West Kilpatrick View image (6 credits) EVANS MARGARET F 1915 501/ 1159 Old or West Kilpatrick View image (6 credits) EVANS CATHERINE F 1916 501/ 1165 Old or West Kilpatrick View image (6 credits) EVANS ANNIE F 1917 501/ 326 Old or West Kilpatrick View image (6 credits) EVANS ANNIE MILLER F 1918 501/ 1050 Old or West Kilpatrick View image (6 credits) EVANS ANNIE REBECCA F 1917 501/ 222 Old or West Kilpatrick View image (6 credits) EVANS HANNAH MCKAY F 1917 501/ 719 Old or West Kilpatrick View image (6 credits) EVANS JANE DOWNER F 1919 501/ 1314 Old or West Kilpatrick View image (6 credits) EVANS JEAN BENNIE F 1920 501/ 1616 Old or West Kilpatrick
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,502 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	15 Jan 2021 11:19
	The only child with the parents on 1911 census is Victor jnr
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,502 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	15 Jan 2021 09:13
	Is it 100% proven that this person was a child of the parents whose names you have posted? Just checking - as it was commonplace for unrelated close family friends to be called ‘aunt’ by children by way of showing affection and out of politeness
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 4,759 Send Message	Tawny	Report	14 Jan 2021 23:08
	I was told she married someone called Mort. All the children were born in Scotland. Sydney died in WW2. The ones I have found were all born in Old or West Kilpatrick and ended up in Edinburgh.
	Researching: No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled. Nor will we proceed with force against him except by the lawful judgement of his equals or by the law of the land. To no one will we sell, to no one deny or delay right or justice.
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,502 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	14 Jan 2021 22:52
	Were all the children born in Scotland ? Did ‘Dolly’ marry? Where did she die?

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