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joseph creek husband of winifred and father of max, peggy, lorraine and peter died 06/05/1957 aged 51
ashes of winifred rose creek wife of joseph creek died 26/04/1985
unmarked grave

Name: Winifred Rose Creek
Death Date: 26 Apr 1985
Burial Place: Northland, New Zealand
Cemetery: Kaiwaka
Spouse Name: Joseph Creek

there is a tree on ancestry but no birth record or parents named

makes him born 1906

Well nothing sounds certain!, and not a common name, looking at Electoral Rolls...

His address 1935 was Kaitangiweka (Waikato) Labourer. c/o Mr. C. Mcmanus.


Could be that he might just remain a mystery, some things are never found out!...(and yes, it is frustrating, lol)

Chris :)

(you could try 'playing' around on newspapers, using different keywords)

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers


(C. Mcmanus, looks to have been a dairy farmer. Probably who Joseph worked for)

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers?items_per_page=10&snippet=true&query=c+mcmanus+kaitangaweka

(below might have been him also)

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/KCC19390519.2.40?query=c+mcmanus+&items_per_page=10&snippet=true


(1935 Electoral, Charles McManus, Mapiu, Waikato. Farmer)

Edits

(PM received from Laraine, hoping that perhaps something new might be able to be found, given new technology, since original query)

Hello Everyone.

I appreciate all of the effort you lovely people have gone to in helping me find my Joseph Creeke.

All the Creeke family I can find are from the Bay of Islands New Zealand.

The answer is in this family for sure but which female is his mother??

He married my grandmother Winifred Rose Morris nee Ferguson in 1935. The marriage certificate for them quotes his father as being Winifred's father. Not sure why but assuming he did not know who his father was. He gave his birth year as 1906. I have one photo of him in about mid 1930's. He looked a lot older than the 30's he proclaimed to be. The death certificate give his age as 51 years old as his son Maxwell did not know how old he was so took a guess. Have tried illegitimate births with NZ Genealogy but you have to have the mother's name which I don't. He has very dark skin which could be attributed to some Maori blood. The Creeke family comes from Mauri heritage but a long time ago 1840's. DNA testing did not show any Maori blood.

I am at a loss as I think this birth may be the 1897 one or a non registered one.

Don't know where to go.

Kind Regards
Loraine Dewhurst
Adelaide

(haven't read all through it yet!, but below)

Beginning to wish we had been told all this below!...hmm!, oh dear.

Chris :)

https://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1248172?page=0

JOSEPH CREEK - NEW ZEALAND

Joseph Creek born c1900-1910. Do not know where born, possibly New Zealand. Married Winifred Rose Morris 1930's New Zealand.

He may have been from the Waitmati area New Zealand.

I am completely stumped with this man. I cannot find anything prior to his marriage to Winifred.

Death 1957

Can someone help.
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Edits (to add, so what info. does below give?)

Marriage
1935/4592 Winifred Rose Morris Joseph Creek Order Product

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search

Chris :)

think you re right, might be a while i guess it is in the middle of the night in australia :-)

no, that's the problem!, lol, think we need to hear back from Loraine, on what little she does know...

Chris :)

can't see anything on ancestry for one born 1897

Name: Joseph Creeke
Birth Date: abt 1878
Death Age: 70
Death Date: 28 Dec 1948
Death Place: Whakatane
Burial Place: Thames Valley, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand
Cemetery: Hillcrest
also listed
alexander george died 1961 aged 55
catheribe ellen died 1972 aged 88
frederick died 1957 aged 66
joseph died 1948 aged 70 -------
pauline died 1950 aged 75
william ernest charles died 1986 aged 79
william frederick george died 1945 aged 93 ------

e: William Frederick George Creeke
Registration Year: 1853
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Islington
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 215

Name: William Frederick George Creeke
Birth Date: abt 1852
Death Age: 93
Death Date: 3 Nov 1945
Death Place: Whakatane
Burial Place: Thames Valley, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand
Cemetery: Hillcrest

Name: William Frederick George Creeke
Gender: Male
Marriage Year: 1898
Marriage Place: New Zealand
Relation: Bridegroom
Folio Number: 2725


View London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917

Report issue

Name: William Frederick George Creek
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Oct 1852
Baptism Place: Islington St Mary, Islington, England
Father: William Creek
Mother: Elizabeth Loë Creek
Register Type: Parish Registers

1861
Name: William F Creeke
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: 1853
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Creeke
Mother's name: Elizabeth I Creeke - see below
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 61
Piece: 149
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
William Creeke 37
Elizabeth I Creeke 29
William F Creeke 8
Joseph H Keal 23
Francis C Keal 21
Ellen A Keal 1

Name: William Creeke
Gender: Male
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 7 Dec 1852
Marriage Banns Place: St Mary, Stoke Newington, Hackney, England
Spouse: Elizabeth Zöe Keet
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Elizabeth Zoe Creeke
Death Date: Oct-Nov-Dec 1894
Registration Place: Mangapai, Wellington, New Zealand
Folio Number: 1883

Name: William Creeke
Birth Date: abt 1830
Death Age: 90
Death Date: 10 Mar 1920
Death Place: Whakatane
Burial Place: Thames Valley, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand
Cemetery: Domain Rd

Ties in there Maddie, but how Joseph was born abt. 1897, mystifying, lol...

Chris :)

Edits (other newspaper items relating to Joseph, Fireman, and Wrestler, also in Trove Newspapers)

NZ Newspapers have a few items on William Creeke also, his Death 1920 (age 91)

in the Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Catherine F Donaldson
Spouse Name: Joseph Creeke
Marriage Date: 1904
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1904
Registration Number: 7942

Name: Catherine E Donaldson
Birth Date: 1883
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1883
Registration Place: Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia
Father: Alexander Donaldson
Mother: Ellen

Name: Catherine Ellen Creeke
Gender: Female
Death Age: 89
Notice Type: Death
Birth Date: abt 1883
Death Date: 16 Jun 1972
Spouse: Joseph Creeke
Publication Place: Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Name: Alexander George Creeke
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1906
Baptism Date: 8 Aug 1906
Baptism Place: Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Parish as it Appears: S. Andrew's
Father: Joseph Creeke
Mother: Kate Creeke

Name: Alexander George Creeke
Birth Date: abt 1906
Death Age: 55
Death Date: 22 Jun 1961
Death Place: Whakatane
Burial Place: Thames Valley, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand
Cemetery: Hillcrest

Name: Alexander G Creeke
Spouse Name: Elizabeth S M Hewson
Marriage Date: 1935
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1935
Registration Number: 5793

Name: Elisabeth Susanne May Hewson
Birth Date: Jul-Aug-Sep 1909
Registration Place: Wellington, Wellington, New Zealand
Folio Number: 3975

Name: Elizabeth Susanne May Creeke
Death Date: Oct-Nov-Dec 1953
Registration Place: Wellington, Wellington, New Zealand
Folio Number: 4639

There is below...

Chris :)

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/BPB19490105.2.20?query=joseph+creeke&phrase=2&snippet=true

(his Obituary 1949 (age 70) says born in Matata)

Death
1949/19119 Creeke Joseph Apanui 70Y Order Product


https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP19260710.2.65.1?query=joseph+creeke&items_per_page=10&phrase=2&snippet=true

(Photo 1926)


(his Birth and Marriage should be on below, who was his wife?)

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search


https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers

(useful, Newspapers!)


https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18981105.2.2.1?query=creeke+matata&items_per_page=10&phrase=1&start_date=01-01-1890&end_date=31-12-1899&snippet=true

(Marriage of his Parents above perhaps)


1898/2468 Pauline Hopkins William Frederick George Creeke Order Product

(Sister below perhaps)

Birth
1899/16801 Creeke Mildred Pauline William Fredrick George - Order Product
(Her Death 1899)

Birth
1902/787 Creeke Ida Zoe Pauline William Frederick George - Order Product

Birth
1906/9427 Creeke William Ernest Charles Pauline William Fredrick George - Order Product

(perhaps a mistranscription of Surname for Joseph? Birth)

Marriage
1925/4423 Ida Zoe Creeke Charles Samuel Armstrong Order Product

Marriage
1914/6972 Margaret Elizabeth Creeke Charles Pearson Order Product


Pauline Death 1950 in Newspapers

(all Burials on below)

https://www.whakatane.govt.nz/services/cemeteries-and-crematorium/cemeteries-search


Edits

(looking at NZ Electoral, wife appears to be Catherine Ellen, Mother Pauline with them, Whatakane. 1928, Joseph and Catherine, and Alexander George Creeke)

Very odd!, below...

Birth
CREEKE ALEXANDER G
9920/1906
JOSEPH
CATHERINE E
SYDNEY
N.S.W.

(his Death 1961 New Zealand (age 55)

(Catherine Ellen Creeke Burial 1972 (age 88)


(another Death Notice 1949 and Memoriam 1949, with Son. Newspapers)


(also 1907 as Joe Creeke, Son of Mr. G Creeke. now Whatakane, has been in Sydney, for last five years)

(and see below)

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/BPB19451106.2.21?query=william+creeke&items_per_page=10&snippet=true

I am looking for any and I mean any information on:

Joseph Creeke
Born 1897
Whakatane
New Zealand

I have followed every conceivable thing that I have been given.
I have joined different Genealogical Societies trying to find out anything on this man.

I would be most grateful if anyone can help me.

Thankyou
LoraineDewhurst
Adelaide
South Australia