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He might not have arrived in New York at that early date ............

immigrants from the UK also went to Boston, Philadelphia, or to Cnaada then across the land border.

Ellis Island records are from 1892 to ca 1930. It's a free site, although you have to register with them to see the records.

https://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/

Castle Garden is a free site that has records of entries into New York from 1820 - 1892

http://www.castlegarden.org/

Family Search (the Mormon site) has a lot of records, including land crossings. You have sign up on a free account.

https://www.familysearch.org/en/

for the list of collections, which can be VERY useful .......

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list

Image shows he's a Farmer travelling with John 47 a Farmer, Nancy 45, Ann 7 and Nancy E 1

John Scaife
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957

Name: John Scaife
Arrival Date: 31 Aug 1840
Birth Date: abt 1822
Age: 18
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: George Washington
Search Ship Database: Search for the George Washington in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
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Name: John Skaif
Arrival year: 1843
Arrival Place: Dubuque Co., Iowa
Primary Immigrant: Skaif, John
Source Publication Code: 491.11
Annotation: Timespan between arrival in the New World and arrival in Oregon, date and place of declaration of intention or naturalization, or date and port of arrival. Extracted from documents at the Oregon State Archives and filed as M2/82A-100/Items 12-15. Date and
Source Bibliography: BELL, SUSAN N. "Marion County, Oregon, Naturalization Records." In Beaver Briefs (Willamette Valley [OR] Genealogical Society). vol. 19:2 (Spring 1987), pp. 33-38; vol. 19:3 (Summer 1987), pp. 71-75; vol. 19:4 (Fall 1987), pp. 106-109.
Household Members:
Name Relation
John Skaif
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Just looked on Anc' and if someone has access they could look at this?

U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s
PASSENGER LISTS
Record information.
Name
John Skaif
Other
name
Arrival
Dubuque Co., Iowa year

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New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
PASSENGER LISTS
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Record information.
Name
John Skaife
Birth
abt year location
Departure
location
Arrival
dd/mm/year New York, New York

Hi Rose, didn't realise FS had the NY lists as well as ancestry, like you I've not seen him there either.

Hi Flip, I only have access to FMP at the moment :-) FS has NY passenger list 1820 to 1891, but not seeing him on there.

1880 also from familysearch, but I had assumed you would already had these.

John Skaife
•
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1880
Event Place:
Fairfield, Marion, Oregon, United States
Gender:
Male
Age:
58
Marital Status:
Married
Race:
White
Race:
W
Occupation:
Farmer
Relationship to Head of Household:
Self
Relationship to Head of Household:
Self
Birth Year (Estimated):
1822
Birthplace:
England
Father's Birthplace:
England
Mother's Birthplace:
England
Sheet Letter:
A
Sheet Number:
81
Person Number:
0
Volume:
2
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Skaife Self Male 58 England
Mariette Skaife Wife Female 48 Missouri, United States
Jasper Skaife Son Male 29 Oregon, United States
Mary Skaife Daughter Female 27 Oregon, United States
Margret Skaife Daughter Female 22 Oregon, United States
Laura Skaife Daughter Female 18 Oregon, United States
James Thompson Other Male 35 Pennsylvania, United States

Hi Rose

I though (according to ancestry) they had the NY/Ellis Island passenger & crew lists from 1820 - is that not correct?

I haven't checked FMP as I only have access to that when logged on at work.

Tree on FS gives marriage place as Duboque, Iowa, so this could be a mistranscription?

United States General Land Office Records 1796-2013

First name(s) John
Last name Shaife
Year 1849
Signature date 1849-03-30
Place Dubuque
County Dubuque
State Iowa
Country United States
Land description State:IA, Meridian:05, Twp - Rng:088N - 002E, Aliquots:SW¼NE¼, Section:34, Survey:
Total acres 40.0000
Entry class Sale-Cash Entry
Act / Treaty date April 24, 1820
Record set United States General Land Office Records 1796-2013
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Land & Estates
Collections from United States

1850 on image with Marriette 19 and son Jasper 1

First name(s) John
Last name Scaiff
Gender: Male
Age 28
Birth year 1822
Birth place England
Dwelling 361
City/township Clackamas county, part of
County Clackamas
State Oregon Territory
NARA series 20298
Record set Us Census 1850

Us Census 1850

J C Peobbes Male 25 1825 Pennsylvania
John Scaiff Male 28 1822 England

Thanks all for the info, I didn't realise it was too early for passenger lists

for ref only

Us Census 1870


John Skaife Male 48 1822 England
Marietta Skaife Female 38 1832 Missouri
Jasper N Skaife Male 19 1851 Oregon
Mary F Skaife Female 17 1853 Oregon
Margaret A Skaife Female 12 1858 Oregon
Laura J Skaife Female 8 1862 Oregon

It's too early for passenger lists.

According to the 1850, 1870 & 1880 census I think he was in Oregon with wife Mariette but he was just listed as John, no middle initial. Mariette born Missouri to English parents. The outgoing lists didn't start till much later, but there are a few possibles for John Skaife on ancestry but I don't have the world wide sub.

Someone else should be able to check though.

Please can anyone advise on trying to find John H Skaife b Yorkshire 1822, married in Missouri, United States 1849, I have tried to find him on passenger list on GR but I am unable to find anything at all for that name.
Thanks Julie