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County Kent
Place Ulcombe
Church name All Saints
Register type Transcript
Marriage date 16 Oct 1869
Groom forename Herbert
Groom surname SANDFORD
Bride forename Mary Ann
Bride surname SANDFORD
Transcribed by Robert Chown
Credit David C Hills
File line number 409

Daughter Edith May

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
SANDFORD, EDITH MAY SANDFORD
GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in HOLLINGBOURN Volume 02A Page 771

and the marriage - were her parents related ?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
Hooker Stephen Hollingbourne 2a 957
Sandford Herbert Hollingbourne 2a 957
Sandford Mary Ann Hollingbourn 2a 957
YORK Ellen Hollingbourn 2a 957

No Mother's maiden name given for the 4 children listed in that census which suggests they were all illegitimate

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
SANDFORD, DAISY MAY -
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in HOLLINGBOURN Volume 02A Page 907

SANDFORD, GLADYS KATHLEEN MARY -
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in HOLLINGBOURN Volume 02A Page 941

SANDFORD, ARCHIBALD RICHARD -
GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in HOLLINGBOURN Volume 02A Page 888

SANDFORD, LESLIE HERBERT WILLIAM -
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in HOLLINGBOURN Volume 02A Page 865

And the child born post census ??
SANDFORD, IRENE MAY -
GRO Reference: 1911 S Quarter in HOLLINGBOURN Volume 02A Page 1776

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
Sandford Irene M Sandford Hollingbourne 2a 1776

Record Transcription:
1911 Census For England & Wales

Tattlebury Headcorn, Headcorn, Kent, England
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Daisy May Sandford's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Herbert Sandford Head Married Male 63 1848 Farm Labourer East Suttton Kent
Mary Ann Sandford Wife Married Female 61 1850 - Ulcombe Kent
Bert Sandford Son Single Male 27 1884 Farm Labourer Headcorn Kent
Edith May Sandford Daughter Single Female 17 1894 Mothers Help Headcorn Kent
Leslie William Sandford Grandson - Male 7 1904 School Hollinborn Kent
Archie Sandford Grandson - Male 5 1906 School Headcorn Kent
Gladys Mary Sandford Granddaughter - Female 4 1907 - Headcorn Kent
Daisy May Sandford Granddaughter - Female 1 1910 - Hollinbourn Kent

Have you looked for their births on the GRO site where MMN is shown pre-1911?

What children did the grandparents have? Have you looked for them?

Have you tried putting each name into the GRO Index to see what the mother's maiden name was???????

This is the url if you do not already have it .............

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/


Please do the above, that should answer your question, because you can then go looking for a marriage of a Sandford son (or sons), OR and unmarried daughter.


But to answer your question ..... if they are shown as GRANDCHILDREN, then they will be grandchildren.

If they were from a brother family, they would be shown as GREAT NIECE or GREAT NEPHEW.

Hi
I am endeavouring to find the parents of listed grandchildren. This is in a 1911 census.There is four children of five as she was born after the registration date for the 1911 census. Two boys as Grandsons and two girls as Granddaughters all with.the same surname Sandford, but with the grandparents family. Would it be they belong to that family as grandchildren or from possibly a brother family of the grandparent being of the same surname.
Many Thanks
Johni
:-)