Genealogy Chat

Erica
it was in loving memory of our dear parents William henry
born 6 4 1906 died 31 12 79
jean born 24 10 1904 died 9 11 1997 exact words on the grave stone

Argyllgran
yes I did know that .I cant even find death records for jean 1997

Erika
my mother Maureen born 1934 she has 3 brothers 1 sister
john William Stanley maude and yes she was born in northern Ireland

Many Irish birth/marriage/death/census records were destroyed in an explosion and fire at the Public Records Office in 1922.

It may be that Jean's birth record was among them, and possibly her marriage record too.

My late mother-in-law was born in Belfast in 1921, but I've never found any trace of that.

I KNOW Jean was your grandmother, but I'm trying to get a 'handle' on the woman
Your mother's birth could give a pointer to the marriage of your grandparents.

These things have to be done step by step.

You haven't yet given any indication of how your came about the 'info' you have about your grandparents.

We are working 'blind'.

You said in your PM to me that your cousin photographed Jean's gravestone. Can you tell us exactly what the wording is on it, please.

its not my mother its grandmother she was born in northern Ireland to the best of my knowledge I also don't know when she married my grandfather

So, was your mother born in NI?

Where and when did she marry your father?

There is no record on freebmd

hi confusing my self its my grandmother

born 1904 passed 1997 sorry

birth name jean Irvine

marriage name Rankin don't know where they married could be co Antrim northern
Ireland good part of there life was spent in crumlin nan was buried in crumlin that's all I know ray

Ray

Your mother’s maiden name was Rankin. What was her first name, please, and where and when was she born?

We need some facts to work on

Have you any documentation which would help?

In a PM to me, Jean was said to have died in 1997.

Hence my request for checked date info

Ray -
where did you find the years of their births and deaths?

How do you know Jean was from Crumlin?

In your opening post you said Jean died in 1987, but in your last post you say she died in 1979. Which is correct? Where did she die?

thanks for the help so far the puzzling one is my grandma there is no records
jean Rankin Irvine 1904 1979 Crumlin co Antrim northern Ireland :-)

Ray

We need you to tell us ALL you know -on here, please - and please check all date info

1911 referred to above


Rankin James 46 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland
Rankin Emily 36 Female Wife Church of Ireland
Rankin Robert 14 Male Son Church of Ireland
Rankin Priscella 12 Female Daughter Church of Ireland
Rankin Mary 9 Female Daughter Church of Ireland
Rankin Margeret 7 Female Daughter Church of Ireland
Rankin William 5 Male Son Church of Ireland
Rankin Emma 2 Female Daughter Church of Ireland
Rankin Annie Female Daughter Church of Ireland

BUT.....................

2 April 1911
The Census of Ireland, 1911, was a census that covered Ireland, and was conducted on Sunday 2 April 1911 as part of a broader Census of the United Kingdom. A census of Ireland had taken place every ten years beginning in 1821 until 1911.

Possible birth for William Rankin!!! (no middle name)

William Rankin born 6/4/1906 parents James & Emily Rankin (nee Cormican)
Link to birth reg:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01743/1688034.pdf (5th one down)

IF CORRECT

Marriage for parents 1897:

Link to marriage cert:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1897/10440/5801400.pdf


This looks like a possibility for the family in the1911 irish census:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Seacash/Ballyquillin/108641/

Ray's other thread - for info ONLY

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1374813

No Jean Irvine of anything like the right age on 1911 Irish census

Irvine sounds Scottish to me..............

WHEN and WHERE did they marry?

WHERE did they die?

Where was your mother born? What was her first name?

Unfortunately the Findmypast website is down for maintenance at the moment so I can't look up anything at the moment. When it's back on I will see if I can find anything.

Kath. x