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Amazing! Thanks again.

A lot to digest, if I have any questions I'll be back.

Kind regards

Paul

Name: Henry Thomas Schwabe
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1885
Marriage Date: 15 Apr 1911
Marriage Place: Christ Church, South Hackney, Hackney, England
Father: William Frederick Schwabe
Spouse: Alice Duffy
Father: Charles Duffy



Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Schwabe Norman H C Duffy Camberwell 1d 1653

Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)
GRIFFIN Ada Camberwell 1d 1721
SCHWABE James Hermann Camberwell 1d 1721

1911

459 Old Kent Road, Camberwell, London & Surrey, England

James Schwabe Head Married Male 28 1883 Tailor Ladies Gents Weavinf Apparel St Pancras London
Ada Schwabe Wife Married Female 29 1882 - Camberwell London
Clifford Schwabe Son Single Male 3 1908 - Camberwell London


1911 Census For England & Wales
389 Old Kent Road S E, Camberwell, London & Surrey, England
Maryann Schwabe Mother Widow Female 55 1856 Tailoress Margate Kent
Louie Schwabe Daughter Single Female 23 1888 Tailoress Deptford London
Rosina Schwabe Daughter Single Female 21 1890 Tailoress St Pancras London


1911 Census For England & Wales
439 Old Kent Road, Camberwell, London & Surrey, England
Henry T Schwabe Son Single Male 26 1885 Tailor Whitechapel

1939

53 Pepys Road , Deptford, London, England


Maryann Schwabe 18 Apr 1854 Female Old Age Pensioner Widowed 10 5
James Graham 30 Jun 1882 Male Master Tailor Married 10 1
Ada Graham 10 Sep 1880 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 10 2
Louisa Graham 04 Sep 1887 Female Tailoress Single 10 3
Rosina (Josephine) Graham 23 Sep 1889 Female Tailoress Single 10 4
Florence M Glasscoo 02 Dec 1885 Female Machinist Button Hole Single 10 6

James and his sisters obviously anglicised their surname...................the father was a Tailor by profession as well


SCHWABE, HENRY THOMAS NETHERSOLE
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 489 Order
SCHWABE, JAMES HERMAN NETHERSOLE
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 83

SCHWABE, MARY ANN LOUISA NETHERSOLE
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1004 Order
SCHWABE, ROSINA JOSEPHINE NETHERSOLE
GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 59

Rosina's mother

Marriages Mar 1863 (>99%)

DIEROFF John Whitechapel 1c 721
NETHERSOLE Mary Ann Whitechapel 1c 721

and sister

Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)
NETHERSOLE Mary Ann Whitechapel 1c 693
Schwabe William Frederick Whitechapel 1c 693

Wow! Thanks to everybody for the amazing response.

Kind regards

Paul :-)

NETHERSOLE, ROSINA JOSEPHINE -
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in THANET Volume 02A Page 616


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Minster, Thanet, Kent, England

First name(s) Rosina
Last name Nethersole
Relationship Bastard Daughter
Marital status -
Sex Female
Age 1
Birth year 1860
Occupation -
Birth town Margate
Birth town as transcribed MARGATE
Birth county Kent
Birth county as transcribed KENT
Birth place (other) England
Parish Minster

The mother's name is Mary A, aged 31, and Rosina has an older sister Mary A, age 6 years.

Her birth
NETHERSOLE, MARY ANN -
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in ISLE OF THANET Volume 02A Page 596

For some strange reason, neither Mary appears to have been transcribed

First name(s) Alan C
Last name Stuff
Sex Male
Marriage year 1949
Alan C Stuff married
Mary B Somerville

Marriage place Columbia, U.S.A.
Place type Place
Country -
Type Consular/Overseas
Source Gro Article 6/ Article 18 Marriages (Up To 1955)
Records year range 1949
Archive reference ART1
Page 130
Line number 32
Archive General Register Office

On the UK ER in 2002

Marriages Sep 1951 (>99%)

STUFF John F WISE Aldershot 6b 40
WISE Audrey I STUFF Aldershot 6b 40



First name(s) JOHN FRANK
Last name STUFF
Gender Male
Birth day 24
Birth month 10
Birth year 1924
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1985
District Camden
Register number 485
County London
Volume 14
Page 1928

Audrey is on ER 2002-4

1939

17 Rowan Road , Mitcham M.B., Surrey, England

Gwendoline Stuff 04 May 1899 Female Instructions In Dressmaking L C C Evening Institute Married 33 1

1939

Saint Olaves , Okehampton R.D., Devon, England

Alan C Stuff 01 Oct 1926 Male At School Single 92 8

STUFF, HERBERT FRANK ( MMN) NETHERSOLE
GRO Reference: 1897 D Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1085

Name: Herbert F Stuff
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 1897
Residence Year: 1939
Residence Place: Coulsdon and Purley, Surrey, England
Occupation: Incapacitated
Schedule Number: 5
Sub Schedule Number: 173
OVSPI: Patient
Enumeration District: DMDB
Registration district: 31/3.

He appears to be in a hospital along with many others classed as --patients in 1939.

death for gwendoline stuff

Gwendoline Stuff
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Collections from
Great Britain, England
Country
England
County
Hertfordshire
Year
1985
Birth Year
1899
Event Quarter
2
District
St. Albans

2 children born to stuff and taylor marriage

Births Dec 1924 (>99%)
Stuff John F Taylor Wandsworth 1d 893 Scan available - click to view

Births Dec 1926 (>99%)
Stuff Alan C Taylor Lambeth 1d 479

Deaths Jun 1915 (>99%)
STUFF August 59 St Martin 1a 655

Deaths Dec 1943 (>99%)
Stuff Rosina J 84 Lambeth 1d 220

marriage of parents

Marriages Dec 1877
Nethersole Rosina Josephine Mile End 1c 1190 click to view
Stuff August Mile End 1c 1190

the parents in 1901

Rosina Stuff
England and Wales Census, 1901

Name: Rosina Stuff
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Event Place: St George The Martyr Southwark, London, Middlesex, England
County: London, Middlesex
Civil Parish: St George The Martyr Southwark
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Mary Magdalene
Sub-District: Kent Road
Registration District: St Saviour Southwark
Residence Note: Old Kent Road
Gender: Female
Age: 41
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Birth Year (Estimated): 1860
Birthplace: Margate
Schedule Type: 34
Page Number: 5
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
August Stuff Head Male 45 Germany Foreign Subject
Rosina Stuff Wife Female 41 Margate
Henry Stuff Son Male 20 Whitechapel, London

Florence Stuff
England and Wales Census, 1911

Name: Florence Stuff
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Event Place: Lambeth, S W, London, England
County: London
Parish: Lambeth
Sub-District: Stockwell
Registration District: Lambeth
Gender: Female
Age: 15
Marital Status: SINGLE
Birth Year (Estimated): 1896
Birthplace: Deptford, Kent
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Line: 11
Page: 1
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
August Stuff Head Male 55 GERMANY
Rosina Stuff Wife Female 51 Margate, Kent
Mary Ann Dieroft Mother-in-law Female 79 Margate, Kent
William Stuff Son Male 32 London Whitechapel, London
Rosina Stuff Daughter Female 27 London Whitechapel, London
Edward Stuff Son Male 23 Deptford, Kent
Lily Stuff Daughter Female 23 Deptford, Kent
Annie Stuff Daughter Female 22 Deptford, Kent
Sidney Stuff Son Male 19 Deptford, Kent
May Stuff Daughter Female 16 Deptford, Kent
Florence Stuff Daughter Female 15 Deptford, Kent
Herbert Stuff Son Male 13 Deptford, Kent

i think this is the family in 1901 newcross would come under greenwich birth for herbert

Name: Edward Stuff
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Event Place: St George The Martyr Southwark, London, Middlesex, England
County: London, Middlesex
Civil Parish: St George The Martyr Southwark
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Mary Magdalene
Sub-District: Kent Road
Registration District: St Saviour Southwark
Residence Note: Old Kent Road
Gender: Male
Age: 13
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birth Year (Estimated): 1888
Birthplace: Deptford, London
Schedule Type: 34
Page Number: 6
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Rosina Stuff Daughter Female 16 Whitechapel, London
Edward Stuff Son Male 13 Deptford, London
Lily Stuff Daughter Female 13 Deptford, London
Annie Stuff Daughter Female 11 Deptford, London
May Stuff Daughter Female 6 Deptford, London
Florrie Stuff Daughter Female 5 Deptford, London
Herbert Stuff Son Male 3 New Cross, London
Mary A Deiroff Mother-In-Law Female 68 Margate
Mary A Schwabe Sister-In-Law Female 45 Margate
James Schwabe Nephew Male 18 Kings Cross, London
Henry Schwabe Nephew Male 16 Whitechapel, London

Deaths Sep 1941 (>99%)
Stuff Herbert F 44 Surrey Mid. E. 2a 304