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7 Jul 2018 14:33 |
Not the 1879 birth. I posted about her on page 1. She married William Robert Berry in 1906, and died in 1932 in South Shields
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On second thoughts, this other Charlotte may be the one who married William Berry:
Charlotte Venus Forster in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Charlotte Venus Forster Registration Year: 1881 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: South Shields Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 731
Both of those children had mms Venus, so presumably the first one was the one who died, and the second one married William Berry.
Parents:
Marriages Dec 1873 (>99%) FORSTER Robert S Shields 10a 1175 Venus Mary Miller S.Shields 10a 1175
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7 Jul 2018 13:52 |
1880,South Shields Gazette 2 Feb,
Sudden Death A child named Charlotte Venus Forester aged 4 months whoese parents reside in Market Place S/Shields died suddenly yesterday..
There is a Charlotte Venus born 1879 - but not in Leicester.
Births Dec 1879 (>99%) Forster Charlotte Venus S. Shields 10a 672.
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6 Jul 2018 17:24 |
Oh, BENLLEY!
Thanks, AQ.
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6 Jul 2018 13:21 |
1891 for Frederick and family:
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Ruding Street, Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Frederick Benlley Head Widower Male 45 1846 Leicestershire, England Shoe Finisher Arthur Benlley Son Single Male 24 1867 Leicestershire, England Shoe Finisher Louisa Benlley Daughter Single Female 18 1873 Leicestershire, England Wool Rover Mary A Benlley Daughter - Female 15 1876 Leicestershire, England Wool Winder Florence Benlley Daughter - Female 13 1878 Leicestershire, England Shoe ? -----------------------------
1901 for Frederick:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 13, Ruding Street, Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Isabella Hill Head Widow Female 75 1826 Leicester, Leicestershire, England - John Walters Boarder Single Male 58 1843 Wales Engine Fitter Joseph Brown Boarder Single Male 74 1827 Leicestershire, England Frame Work Knitter Thomas Pratt Boarder Widower Male 68 1833 Warwick, Warwickshire, England Fish Hawker Fred Bentley Boarder Widower Male 50 1851 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Shoe Finisher John Holt Boarder Widower Male 47 1854 Derby, Derbyshire, England Blacksmith ----------------------------------
Not sure about that 1906 death- the age fits correctly with another Frederick Bentley in the same area.
Wondered about this death- possibly not long after the 1901 census. (Although, again- there is a Frederick Bentley of similar age in the Everton area which could fit)
First name(s) FREDERICK Last name BENTLEY Gender Male Birth year 1845 Age 56 Death quarter 2 Death year 1901 District West Derby County Lancashire Volume 8B Page 314 ----------------------------------
I won't be around for a few days, but I wondered what the address was for Charlotte on the Burke marriage certificate- and as Rose asked, who were the witnesses?
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6 Jul 2018 13:20 |
Thank You ArdyllGran for all the effort you have put in Going to take a while to take it all in.
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6 Jul 2018 13:19 |
Thank you Rose
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6 Jul 2018 13:18 |
Thank You ArdyllGran for all the effort you have put in Going to take a while to take it all in.
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6 Jul 2018 11:26 |
Marriage of Charlotte's sister Louisa;
Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%) Bentley Louisa Leicester 7a 482 Martin Francis Edward Leicester 7a 482
Louisa Martin in the 1901 England Census Name: Louisa Martin Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: Frank Martin Birth Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Leicester formerly St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: South Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 45 Neighbors: Piece: 3007 Folio: 23 Page Number: 8 Household schedule number: 59 Household Members: Name Age Frank Martin 30 Louisa Martin 28
Children:
MARTIN, EDWARD mms BENTLEY GRO Reference: 1893 M Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 280
MARTIN, FRANCIS mms BENTLEY GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 287
Sadly, looks like both children died:
Deaths Jun 1893 (>99%) Martin Edward 0 Leicester 7a 152
Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%) Martin Frank 1 Leicester 7a 126
Their father's death:
Deaths Dec 1910 (>99%) Martin Francis E 40 Leicester 7a 147
Possibly Louisa's death??
Deaths Mar 1946 (>99%) Martin Louisa 72 Leicester 7a 280
Living alone in 1939:
Louisa Martin in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Louisa Martin Gender: Female Marital Status: Widowed Birth Date: 18 Jan 1874 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 7 Residence Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, England Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties Schedule Number: 284 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: RESW Registration district: 407-3 Household Members: Name Louisa Martin
But I can't see her in 1891.
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6 Jul 2018 10:55 |
Charlotte Bentley's sister Florence's marriage:
Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%) BENTLEY Florence Leicester 7a 421 Hemmings Robert Henry Leicester 7a 421
She's with her husband and children in Leicester in 1901 and 1911. All children mms Bentley.
Her death:
Florence Hemmings in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Florence Hemmings Death Age: 65 Birth Date: abt 1877 Registration Date: Dec 1942 Registration district: Leicester Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 212
But no sign of her in 1891.
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6 Jul 2018 10:25 |
The son Frederick - aged 2 months on 1881 census - seems to have died in infancy:
Frederick Bentley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Frederick Bentley Registration Year: 1881 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Leicester Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 289
Frederick Bentley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Frederick Bentley Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Registration Year: 1881 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 0 Registration district: Leicester Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 160
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6 Jul 2018 10:22 |
Frederick had died before Charlotte V's marriage in 1910, per the marriage cert.
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BENTLEY, FREDERICK 66 GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 152
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6 Jul 2018 10:15 |
Mary Ann Brammage / Brummage, with whom Harry and son Arthur are staying in 1911, was Charlotte's sister. (See 1881 census posted on page 2.).
Mary Ann Bentley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: Mary Ann Bentley Registration Year: 1897 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Leicester Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 508 Records on Page: Name Mary Ann Bentley William Henry Z Brammage
Parents' marriage:
Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%) Bentley Frederick Leicester 7a 555 Boot Caroline Leicester 7a 555
1881 already posted. I can't find them at all in 1891 on Ancestry. Can anyone see them on FMP?
Birth of another child:
BENTLEY, CAROLINE mms BOOT GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 285
And the child's death:
Caroline Bentley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Caroline Bentley Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Registration Year: 1889 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 0 Registration district: Leicester Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 172
And Caroline senior died in childbirth:
Caroline Bentley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Caroline Bentley Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Registration Year: 1889 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 43 Registration district: Leicester Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 173
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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!
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6 Jul 2018 02:39 |
Does the marriage certificate say she was a widow? Who were the witnesses?
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6 Jul 2018 00:07 |
Harry Memory on the 1939 Register
1939 Register Transcription
Memory Household (1 Person) 18 Swannington Road , Leicester C.B., Leicestershire, England Add to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Harry Memory 05 May 1869 Male Shoe Repairer Widowed 172 1
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5 Jul 2018 19:42 |
Well done finding Harry senior and Arthur in 1911, safc. I had hunted for ages on Ancestry without success. No wonder - the Ancestry transcription has Harry and Arthur as Brammage, not Memory, though it's clearly Memory in the image.
Harry junior in 1911 already posted.
Well, so the Arthur who died in 1902 isn't Charlotte & Harry's son.
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5 Jul 2018 19:16 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 90 Jarrom St Leicester, Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Frank Seth Scarborough Head Married Male 40 1871 Leicestershire Leicester Hosiery Clerk Transcription Sarah Scarborough Wife Married Female 35 1876 Leicestershire Leicester Hosiery Linker Transcription Mary Ann Skelton Mother In Law Married Female 67 1844 Leicestershire Harborough - Transcription Edith May Mansfield Sister In Law Single Female 29 1882 Leicestershire Leicester Hosiery Machinist Transcription Harry Memory Visitor - Male 13 1898 Leicestershire Leicester School
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5 Jul 2018 19:15 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 27 Cumberland St Leicester, Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation William Brammage Head Married Male 38 1873 Leicester L Shire Shoe Hand Caster Transcription Mary Ann Brammage Wife Married Female 36 1875 Leicester L Shire Winder Transcription Ethel Brammage Daughter - Female 11 1900 Leicester L Shire - Transcription Clifford Brammage Son - Male 7 1904 Leicester L Shire - Transcription Harry Memory Boarder Married Male 41 1870 Leicester L Shire Shoe Hand Caster Transcription Arthur Memory Nephew - Male 10 1901 - -
???? maybe charlotte made a name up because harry is still alive
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5 Jul 2018 19:08 |
Louisa is Charlotte's younger sister, as in 1881 census posted earlier.
(Just to be clear, I'm meaning Charlotte, daughter of Frederick the shoe finisher in Leicester, and not Charlotte Minnie in the workhouse in Lancashire.)
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5 Jul 2018 18:54 |
Leicestershire marriages Transcription
Learn more Print View image Add to tree First name(s) Henry Last name Memory Age 21 Birth year 1869 Residence 29 West Holme Street Father's first name(s) David Father's last name Memory Marriage year 1890 Marriage date 25 Dec 1890 Spouse's first name(s) Charlotte Spouse's last name Bentley Spouse's age 20 Spouse's residence 26 West Holme Street Spouse's father's first name(s) Frederick Spouse's father's last name Bentley Denomination Anglican Place Leicester, St Paul's County Leicestershire Country England Event type Parish Registers Archive Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland Archive reference DE1501/9 Record set Leicestershire Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain
a witness is louisa bentley
charlotte signed her name
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5 Jul 2018 15:22 |
Another child had died in infancy in 1891:
Charlotte Memory in the 1891 England Census Name: Charlotte Memory Gender: Female Age: 20 Relationship: Wife Birth Year: 1871 Spouse: Harry Memory Child: Charlotte Memory Birth Place: Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: All Saints Residence Place: All Saints, Leicestershire, England Sub registration district: West Leicester ED, Institution or Vessel: 39 Neighbors: Piece: 2541 Folio: 21 Household Members: Name Age Harry Memory 22 Charlotte Memory 20 Charlotte Memory 1/12
Charlotte Memory in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Charlotte Memory Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Registration Year: 1891 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 0 Registration district: Leicester Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 144
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