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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Jul 2018 14:33

Not the 1879 birth.
I posted about her on page 1.
She married William Robert Berry in 1906, and died in 1932 in South Shields

EDIT:

On second thoughts, this other Charlotte may be the one who married William Berry:

Charlotte Venus Forster
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Charlotte Venus Forster
Registration Year: 1881
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: South Shields
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 731


Both of those children had mms Venus, so presumably the first one was the one who died, and the second one married William Berry.


Parents:

Marriages Dec 1873 (>99%)
FORSTER Robert S Shields 10a 1175
Venus Mary Miller S.Shields 10a 1175

Kay????

Kay???? Report 7 Jul 2018 13:52

1880,South Shields Gazette
2 Feb,

Sudden Death A child named Charlotte Venus Forester aged 4 months whoese parents reside in Market Place S/Shields died suddenly yesterday..


There is a Charlotte Venus born 1879 - but not in Leicester.

Births Dec 1879 (>99%)
Forster Charlotte Venus S. Shields 10a 672.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2018 17:24

Oh, BENLLEY!

Thanks, AQ.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 6 Jul 2018 13:21

1891 for Frederick and family:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ruding Street, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Frederick Benlley Head Widower Male 45 1846 Leicestershire, England Shoe Finisher
Arthur Benlley Son Single Male 24 1867 Leicestershire, England Shoe Finisher
Louisa Benlley Daughter Single Female 18 1873 Leicestershire, England Wool Rover
Mary A Benlley Daughter - Female 15 1876 Leicestershire, England Wool Winder
Florence Benlley Daughter - Female 13 1878 Leicestershire, England Shoe ?
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1901 for Frederick:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13, Ruding Street, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Isabella Hill Head Widow Female 75 1826 Leicester, Leicestershire, England -
John Walters Boarder Single Male 58 1843 Wales Engine Fitter
Joseph Brown Boarder Single Male 74 1827 Leicestershire, England Frame Work Knitter
Thomas Pratt Boarder Widower Male 68 1833 Warwick, Warwickshire, England Fish Hawker
Fred Bentley Boarder Widower Male 50 1851 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Shoe Finisher
John Holt Boarder Widower Male 47 1854 Derby, Derbyshire, England Blacksmith
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Not sure about that 1906 death- the age fits correctly with another Frederick Bentley in the same area.

Wondered about this death- possibly not long after the 1901 census. (Although, again- there is a Frederick Bentley of similar age in the Everton area which could fit)

First name(s) FREDERICK
Last name BENTLEY
Gender Male
Birth year 1845
Age 56
Death quarter 2
Death year 1901
District West Derby
County Lancashire
Volume 8B Page 314
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I won't be around for a few days, but I wondered what the address was for Charlotte on the Burke marriage certificate- and as Rose asked, who were the witnesses?

Spotts

Spotts Report 6 Jul 2018 13:20

Thank You ArdyllGran for all the effort you have put in
Going to take a while to take it all in.

Spotts

Spotts Report 6 Jul 2018 13:19

Thank you Rose

Spotts

Spotts Report 6 Jul 2018 13:18

Thank You ArdyllGran for all the effort you have put in
Going to take a while to take it all in.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2018 11:26

Marriage of Charlotte's sister Louisa;

Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
Bentley Louisa Leicester 7a 482
Martin Francis Edward Leicester 7a 482



Louisa Martin
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Louisa Martin
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Frank Martin
Birth Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Leicester formerly St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: South Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors:
Piece: 3007
Folio: 23
Page Number: 8
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Martin 30
Louisa Martin 28


Children:

MARTIN, EDWARD mms BENTLEY
GRO Reference: 1893 M Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 280


MARTIN, FRANCIS mms BENTLEY
GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 287


Sadly, looks like both children died:

Deaths Jun 1893 (>99%)
Martin Edward 0 Leicester 7a 152

Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%)
Martin Frank 1 Leicester 7a 126


Their father's death:

Deaths Dec 1910 (>99%)
Martin Francis E 40 Leicester 7a 147

Possibly Louisa's death??

Deaths Mar 1946 (>99%)
Martin Louisa 72 Leicester 7a 280


Living alone in 1939:


Louisa Martin
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Louisa Martin
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widowed
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1874
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 7
Residence Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 284
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: RESW
Registration district: 407-3
Household Members:
Name
Louisa Martin


But I can't see her in 1891.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2018 10:55

Charlotte Bentley's sister Florence's marriage:

Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%)
BENTLEY Florence Leicester 7a 421
Hemmings Robert Henry Leicester 7a 421


She's with her husband and children in Leicester in 1901 and 1911.
All children mms Bentley.


Her death:

Florence Hemmings
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Florence Hemmings
Death Age: 65
Birth Date: abt 1877
Registration Date: Dec 1942
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 212


But no sign of her in 1891.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2018 10:25

The son Frederick - aged 2 months on 1881 census - seems to have died in infancy:


Frederick Bentley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Frederick Bentley
Registration Year: 1881
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 289


Frederick Bentley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Frederick Bentley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Registration Year: 1881
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 160

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2018 10:22

Frederick had died before Charlotte V's marriage in 1910, per the marriage cert.


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BENTLEY, FREDERICK 66
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 152

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2018 10:15

Mary Ann Brammage / Brummage, with whom Harry and son Arthur are staying in 1911, was Charlotte's sister. (See 1881 census posted on page 2.).


Mary Ann Bentley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Mary Ann Bentley
Registration Year: 1897
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 508
Records on Page:
Name
Mary Ann Bentley
William Henry Z Brammage


Parents' marriage:

Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%)
Bentley Frederick Leicester 7a 555
Boot Caroline Leicester 7a 555


1881 already posted.
I can't find them at all in 1891 on Ancestry. Can anyone see them on FMP?


Birth of another child:

BENTLEY, CAROLINE mms BOOT
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 285

And the child's death:

Caroline Bentley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Caroline Bentley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 172


And Caroline senior died in childbirth:

Caroline Bentley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Caroline Bentley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 43
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 173





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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 6 Jul 2018 02:39

Does the marriage certificate say she was a widow? Who were the witnesses?

Rose

safc

safc Report 6 Jul 2018 00:07


Harry Memory on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Memory Household (1 Person) 18 Swannington Road , Leicester C.B., Leicestershire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Harry Memory 05 May 1869 Male Shoe Repairer Widowed 172 1

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jul 2018 19:42

Well done finding Harry senior and Arthur in 1911, safc.
I had hunted for ages on Ancestry without success.
No wonder - the Ancestry transcription has Harry and Arthur as Brammage, not Memory, though it's clearly Memory in the image.

Harry junior in 1911 already posted.

Well, so the Arthur who died in 1902 isn't Charlotte & Harry's son.

safc

safc Report 5 Jul 2018 19:16


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
90 Jarrom St Leicester, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Frank Seth Scarborough Head Married Male 40 1871 Leicestershire Leicester Hosiery Clerk
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Sarah Scarborough Wife Married Female 35 1876 Leicestershire Leicester Hosiery Linker
Transcription
Mary Ann Skelton Mother In Law Married Female 67 1844 Leicestershire Harborough -
Transcription
Edith May Mansfield Sister In Law Single Female 29 1882 Leicestershire Leicester Hosiery Machinist
Transcription
Harry Memory Visitor - Male 13 1898 Leicestershire Leicester School

safc

safc Report 5 Jul 2018 19:15


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
27 Cumberland St Leicester, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
William Brammage Head Married Male 38 1873 Leicester L Shire Shoe Hand Caster
Transcription
Mary Ann Brammage Wife Married Female 36 1875 Leicester L Shire Winder
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Ethel Brammage Daughter - Female 11 1900 Leicester L Shire -
Transcription
Clifford Brammage Son - Male 7 1904 Leicester L Shire -
Transcription
Harry Memory Boarder Married Male 41 1870 Leicester L Shire Shoe Hand Caster
Transcription
Arthur Memory Nephew - Male 10 1901 - -


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maybe charlotte made a name up because harry is still alive

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jul 2018 19:08

Louisa is Charlotte's younger sister, as in 1881 census posted earlier.

(Just to be clear, I'm meaning Charlotte, daughter of Frederick the shoe finisher in Leicester, and not Charlotte Minnie in the workhouse in Lancashire.)

safc

safc Report 5 Jul 2018 18:54


Leicestershire marriages Transcription

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First name(s) Henry
Last name Memory
Age 21
Birth year 1869
Residence 29 West Holme Street
Father's first name(s) David
Father's last name Memory
Marriage year 1890
Marriage date 25 Dec 1890
Spouse's first name(s) Charlotte
Spouse's last name Bentley
Spouse's age 20
Spouse's residence 26 West Holme Street
Spouse's father's first name(s) Frederick
Spouse's father's last name Bentley
Denomination Anglican
Place Leicester, St Paul's
County Leicestershire
Country England
Event type Parish Registers
Archive Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland
Archive reference DE1501/9
Record set Leicestershire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

a witness is louisa bentley

charlotte signed her name

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jul 2018 15:22

Another child had died in infancy in 1891:


Charlotte Memory
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Charlotte Memory
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Relationship: Wife
Birth Year: 1871
Spouse: Harry Memory
Child: Charlotte Memory
Birth Place: Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: All Saints
Residence Place: All Saints, Leicestershire, England
Sub registration district: West Leicester
ED, Institution or Vessel: 39
Neighbors:
Piece: 2541
Folio: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Memory 22
Charlotte Memory 20
Charlotte Memory 1/12


Charlotte Memory
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Charlotte Memory
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 144