Genealogy Chat

Nyx, I only knew my aunts by their married names,
May Wharton
Ethel Gustard
Nellie Saints

David
, who were the parents of the children you name? Atkinson and Stewart or someone else? because even if your mother knew them as siblings if they were half siblings or born under mothers name only then it makes it difficult to track them.

Oddly my Mother Ella Atkinson lived at 200 Portland Road following her
marriage in 1945

I apologise if my incomplete question is irksome.

Ref Thomas Atkinson's occupation. He worked for Newcastle Council on the bins, then as a road sweeper.

I omitted Newcastle upon Tyne, but you found that.

Mother had elder sisters, May, Ethel, Nellie, Alice and a brother George

Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%)

Cunningham Margaret Atkinson Newcastle T. 10b 406

For ref as it's got so complicated

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION

Atkinson Household (5 People)
186 Portland Road , Newcastle-upon-Tyne C.B., Northumberland, England

Janet A (Jenner* error crossed through) Atkinson 15 Oct 1884 Female Unpaid Domestic Dutie Married 40 2
Thomas Atkinson 27 Feb 1880 Male Corporation Labourer Married 40 1
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
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Ella Irvine (Atkinson) 01 Jan 1929 Female At School Single 40 5

Oddly Ella seems to be listed here also?


Marshall Household (4 People)
9 Woodlands Road , Barnard Castle U.D., Durham, England


Ella D Atkinson 01 Jan 1929 Female At School Single 168 3
Beatrice M Marshall 11 Aug 1893 Female Private Means Single 168 1
Mary A W Marshall 10 Nov 1895 Female Private Means Single 168 2
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So you mention a son Joseph on the other thread

? ATKINSON, JOSEPH CUNNINGHAM Order
GRO Reference: 1916 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 209

which is to this marriage

Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%)
Atkinson Thomas Cunningham Newcastle T. 10b 40[56]

Not mmn Rutherford who you also mentioned who married a different Atkinson?
Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)
Atkinson John M Rutherford Newcastle T 10b 283

For ref as it saves time

"David Report 3 Dec 2015 18:22
If I have ever at any time mentioned my Grandfather Thomas Atkinson in a thread seeking help about his wives and children then I apologise NOW
My Grand Father Thomas Atkinson was married more than once and fathered several children. My Mother Ella Doreen Atkinson being the youngest b1928-d1994
Mother had several brothers and sisters. All had Thomas Atkinson for a Father.
GF was a widower when he married Janet Stewart Dodds a widow abt1919 Janet died in 1945 Janet had been married to a chair maker from South Shields(?)
Thomas had been married to woman called Rutherford who I know was the Mother of his son Joseph.
Other sons to Thomas were, George, Ralph, and others. His daughters were named Alice, May, Ethel, Nellie, Janet and my Mother Ella Doreen..

What I don't know and seek help with is which of the children were born to Rutherford and which to JANET STEWART DODDS"

David, leaving aside the fact you could just have flagged up that there WAS a previous thread with lots of info on already

Can you confirm this

"
Ralph, my Mother's brother, senior in years is on a way memorial, he was killed in action in WW11 and his name is given as Ralph Atkinson"

Do you know when Ralph was born? EDIT going from possibles for the death assume born 1925 ish, so this one??? if mother was Janet in her first married name ( and used it as mmn also) Births Mar 1925 (>99%)
DODD Ralph Dodd Newcastle T. 10b 237

Thought so

Previous thread......

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1356498

The 1911 with Maggie Keough, Thomas given as single...he evidently didn't marry Maggie?

Possibles

Marriages Mar 1903
Atkinson Thomas Newcastle T. 10b 59
Brydon Isabella Newcastle T. 10b 59
Hedley Edward Newcastle T. 10b 59
McLean Margaret Newcastle T. 10b. 59



Marriages Jun 1908
ATKINSON Thomas Newcastle T. 10b 143
Broun John William Newcastle T 10b 143
BROWN John William Newcastle T. 10b 143
FLINT Ethel Vera Newcastle T. 10b 143
GIFFORD Elizabeth Newcastle T. 10b. 143



Marriages Mar 1910
Atkinson Thomas Newcastle T. 10b 61
BRIDER Beatrice Newcastle T. 10b 61
POTTS Margaret Ann Newcastle T. 10b 61
SIMPSON Richard Newcastle T


Marriages Dec 1911
Atkinson Thomas Newcastle T. 10b 294
Brown Rosina Newcastle upon Tyne 10b 294
Noakes Charles W Newcastle T. 10b 294
Taylor Theresa Newcastle T.

Quite a few more from then too on freebmd

Just while I have it on screen

Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)
ATKINSON John Newcastle T. 10b 31
Scott Mary Ann Newcastle T. 10b 31

?????????? living in Byker

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2 Back Stepney Bank, Byker, Northumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Thomas Atkinson Head Married Male 31 1880 Shieldfield N C Cartman Transcription
Maggie Keough Housekeeper Married Female 30 1881 Glasgow Scotland Housekeeper Transcription
John Keough Atkinson Son - Male 5 1906 Shieldfield N C - Transcription
Alice Keough Atkinson Daughter - Female 3 1908 Melbourne St N C - Transcription
Margaret Keough Atkinson Daughter - Female 2 1909 Melbourne St N C

What was Thomas's occupation when he married in 1928?

David do you know if there were any children to the first marriage? That would narrow it down a bit perhaps.

There's around 12 marriages ( Newcastle) for a Thomas Atkinson between 1901 and 1928 second marriage, so may be difficult!

He is still single and living at home in 1901

You have Ella's birthplace as Newcastle on your GR tree.

Giving that info with your request would make helping you so much easier

And, of course, Ella was a child of the second marriage....................

If that 1891 correct

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Church Walk, All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

John Atkinson Head Married Male 57 1844 Newcastle General Labourer Transcription
Mary Atkinson Wife Married Female 53 1848 Newcastle -
Thomas Atkinson Son Single Male 21 1880 Newcastle Shipyard Labourer
Jane Atkinson Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Newcastle -
Henry Atkinson Son Single Male 12 1889 Newcastle -