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Might say step mother because Doris was using a different name? and we don't know what documentation she had if she had been fostered by Malenbergs?

For assisted passage to be given I would guess that she had not been to Canada previously and was in UK until that outward journey??

Rachel died in 1959 and Elizabeth was my auntie Tilly she was born about 1906 ,ta for info

Rachel died in 1959 and Elizabeth was my auntie Tilly she was born about 1906 ,ta for info

How sure are you of the spelling of Malenberg?

I'm wondering about this family in Bootle in 1911:


Charles Malmberg
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Charles Malmberg
Age in 1911: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Sweden
Civil Parish: Bootle cum Linacre
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 33 Benedict Street Bootle
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: Bootle
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 22411
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Malmberg 57
Elizabeth Malmberg 53

They didn't go to Canada, though.

Charles died 1915:

Charles A Malmberg
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Charles A Malmberg
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Registration Year: 1915
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 495

Elizabeth remarried 1919:

Marriages Jun 1919 (>99%)
Lewis Alfred Halmborg W. Derby 8b 796
Malmberg Elizabeth Lewis W.Derby 8b 796

It's said malenberg or variant ,and they resided in the immediate area of St. Andrews church litherland Liverpool ,a Eric malenberg died in 1913 and he had something to do with Bryant and may match company ,this is what I've been told by family ,they said Minnie went to the family who were involved with this company

Where did he die? I can't see a death anything like that anywhere in England/Wales 1913-14.

Nor in Canada.

No idea that's info I got from family ,they thought it was west Derby area

Searched first name only Eric, 1912-14 no deaths in anything resembling that surname in England and Wales..

Hackney Archives have Bryant & May staff records - maybe worth a try:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/N13829595

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/a/A13531018

Also can't see anyone of anything like that name living in Litherland / Bootle / area in 1911.

That was what my dad was told by my nan ,and other members of the family ,thanks for your help ,

Alison, I'm Jacqui, descendant of Rachael and Minnie was my Aunt.
This is Minnie travelling from Canada to Chicago, on the visa papers for entry Minnie states the reason for entering the USA to be visiting Uncle Carl Oscar Malmberg (occupation Laundryman), Brother of Charles Malmberg of Bootle!

Regards - Jacqui

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
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Name Minnie Dayer
Gender Female
Race/Nationality English
Age 21
Birth Date abt 1909
Birth Place London, England
Arrival Date 15 Oct 1930
Port of Arrival Noyes, Minnesota and North Dakota, USA
Departure Date 15 Oct 1930
Residence Place Man, Wpg
Record Type Cards
Household Members
Name Age
Minnie Dayer

This is a WW1 draft registration card for Carl Oscar Malmberg:

Carl Oscar Malmberg
Race: Caucasian (White)
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 23 Jun 1890 Birth Place: Sweden
Street address: 1230 4th Ave Residence Place: Rock Island, Illinois, USA
Physical Build: Medium Height: Medium Hair Description: Not Bald
Hair Colour: light brown Eye Colour: blue

Added:
He is in a tree on Ancestry, but they do not know his parents:
'He died in 1937 in Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, at the age of 47.'

This is from Ancestry New York passenger lists, his father may be C J Malmberg, still trying to work out where he comes from, and where his Father lives.

Karl O Malmberg
Arrival Date: 11 Nov 1910
Birth Date: abt 1890 Birth Location: Sweden
Birth Location Other: hjerblanda ikpg (added: could be Hjärtlanda as below post)
Age: 20 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Lusitania

Father might be living in Gullringen, Flaka, Sweden.

Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1859-1943
Name Carl Oscar
Gender Man
Birth Date 7 Maj 1864
Birth Place Forsmark, Stockholm, Sverige
Father Per Trullsson Malmberg
Mother Kjerstin Hansson
Household Members
Name Age
Carl Oscar
Kjerstin Hansson
Per Trullsson Malmberg

Cannot see the original swedish record, so transcribed:
Karl Oskar Malmberg
Gender: Man (Male)
Birth Date: 23 jun 1890
Birth Place: Hjärtlanda, Jönköping
Departure Date: 25 jun 1910
Departure Place: Bringetofta, Jönköping
Arrival Place: Nordamerika
Occupation or Relation: Hemmason
Marital Status: Unmarried (Single)
Notes: Travels alone
Original Page: 261

Can see the original, but not clear
Karl Oskar
[Karl Oskar Malmberg]
[Karl Oskar Karlsson]
[Karl Oskar Johansson]
Birth Date: 23 jun 1890
Birth Place: Hjärtlanda, Jönköping, Sverige (Sweden)
Father: Karl Johan Malmberg (age 30?)
Mother: Ida Kristina Petersdotter (age 31?)

Here is a transcript of Minnie's entry manifest, when she came to the US from Canada. I have cross-referenced this with the 1930 US census, also reproduced below. Both list Carl Oscar Malmberg's address in Chicago as: 6407 So Morgan Street.

This puts Carl Malmberg's date of birth around 1865 and his year of immigration 1885. It appears then that the Carl Malmberg you have found is a different person to Minnie's 'Uncle'.

Regards - Jacqui

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name Minnie Dayer
Accompanied by alone
Gender Female
Age 21
Sex F
Occupation None
Birth Date abt 1909
Birth Place London, England
Arrival Date 15 Oct 1930
Last permanent residence 335 Trohnt Ave, MAN, Winnipeg (NB: unsure of spelling)
Destination Chicago, Illinois
Passage paid by Self
Ever in U.S. No
Going to join relative or friend: Uncle & Aunt Carl O Malmberg
Complete address 6407 So Morgan Street
Purpose in coming and time remaining in US: Visit – 2 months
Port of Arrival Noyes, Minnesota and North Dakota, USA
Departure Date 15 Oct 1930


1930 United States Federal Census
Name Oscar C Malmberg
Birth Year abt 1865
Gender Male
Race White
Age in 1930 65
Birthplace Sweden
Marital Status Married
Relation to Head of House Head
Home in 1930 Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA
Map of Home Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Street Address Morgan Street
Ward of City 18
Block 184
House Number 6407
Dwelling Number 39
Family Number 54
Home Owned or Rented Owned
Home Value 7500
Radio Set Yes
Lives on Farm No
Age at First Marriage 23
Attended School No
Able to Read and Write Yes
Father's Birthplace Sweden
Mother's Birthplace Sweden
Language Spoken Swedish
Immigration Year 1885
Naturalization Naturalized
Able to Speak English Yes
Occupation Ironer
Industry laundry
Class of Worker Wage or salary worker
Employment Yes
Household Members Name Age
Oscar C Malmberg
Augusta Malmberg
Rudolph C Malmberg
Thelinda Engstrom

Thank you Jacqui for the info ,do u know what happened to Minnie ,did she marry ,did she know she was adopted and why ? And was she happy ,it's always upset that she was adopted and Rachel went on to have other kids ,thanking you in advance for any other info ,sorry I haven't replied before now ,I haven't been on here for a while
Alison

I'm still looking for any information about my auntie Minnie dayer ,would love to find out anything about her ,thanks Alison

Still looking for any info about Minnie ( Doris) Dayer ,any help would be most appreciated
Thanks Alison