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I can't see her going from Canada to UK before that, with any of the possible name permutations.

Thank you will have a look

That looks good ArgyllGran :-)

Can someone have a look and see what the house number is for Margaret (1876) and Thomas (1868) Edwards, in Smith Drive, Bootle in 1939, please?

I'm hoping they're not at number 1 !

At no 1 is an Ernest A Cawley and mother Elizabeth H Cawley , possibly

Marriages Mar 1924 (>99%)
Cawley Ernest A Medlicott W.Derby 8b 354
Medlicott Elizabeth H Cawley W.Derby 8b 354

edit yes it is the son
Births Sep 1924 (>99%)
Cawley Ernest A Medlicott W.Derby 8b 868

Phew !!

Then maybe that's the correct Doris.
If not, the Desmond and Edwards names would be a huge coincidence.

Just for confirmation Margaret & Thomas Edwards are at no 27 :-)

Thank you for all your help

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Pages/home.aspx

Passenger Lists and Border Entries, 1925-1935 - Nominal Indexes

Item: Doris Desmond
Given Name(s): Doris
Surname: Desmond
Age: 21
Gender: F
Nationality: En
Ship: MINNEDOSA
Port of Arrival: St.John, New Brunswick
Date of Arrival: 1930-03-02
Year of Arrival: 1930
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 71
Series: C-1-c
Microfilm Reel Number: T-14855
Reference: RG 76
Item Number: 223003

I'm obviously not using the search correctly but you should be able to use the microfilm number to see more details...

add it doesn't give any more
but it's on page 498 :


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Having said that it doesn't give any more info, what it does have written in above "Mother Mrs Edwards is the word "Step", had Mr Edwards married again?

He only married Rachel that's the information I've got

Doris went on assisted passage, as a domestic

"British Immigration

Generally speaking, British immigration may be divided into two classes, viz.-(I) Those who receive assisted passage, and (2) Those who pay their own fare.

The Assisted Passage Agreement of December 28, 1929, was effective during the calendar year 1930 and applicable to the following classes of migrants: (a) Selected families proceeding under an approved Land Settlement Scheme; (b) Selected families for farm placement; (c) House-workers, and (d) Juveniles."

Do you know when Rachel died?

Is this Rachel then? the birth year is out and I can't find the daughter's birth? EDIT oh yes I can I think but it is entered as Edwards/Dayer

Births Jun 1927 (>99%)

Edwards Hannah M Dayer W.Derby 8b 825


Edwards Household (3 People)
50 Marsh Lane , Bootle C.B., Lancashire, England

Rachel Edwards 27 Nov 1882 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 52 1
Alfred Edwards 29 Jun 1923 Male Guillotine Hand Single 52 2
H (Mary) Edwards 01 May 1927 Female At School Single 52 3

Births Sep 1923 (>99%)
Edwards Alfred Plunkett W.Derby 8b 637

There are 4 closed records above Rachel's name on the 1939, visible above that is an Elizabeth Edwards at the same address, but the age is unfortunately obscured by the black redaction line.

The Elizabeth Edwards at the same address as Rachel on the 1939 is transcribed as:

50 Marsh Lane , Bootle C.B., Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Edwards 11 Oct 1906 Female House Wife Unpaid Married

EDIT: According to a tree on Ancestry- this Elizabeth was married to Rachel's son, Arthur Thomas Edwards:

Marriages Sep 1929
Edwards Arthur T Plunkett W.Derby 8b 1320
Plunkett Elizabeth Edwards W.Derby 8b 1320

Her birth:

PLUNKETT, ELIZABETH mms BARNES
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 247


Maybe parents' marriage:

Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)
Barnes Ann Jane Liverpool 8b 187
Plunkett Luke Liverpool 8b 187


Rachel had an older brother Luke (see 1891 census on page 1) - is Elizabeth Rachel's niece?

Yes, looks like it - YOB and occupation match 1891:

Luke Plunket
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Luke Plunket
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Ann J Plunket
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 155 Rose Vale
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: North Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3473
Folio: 12
Page Number: 16
Household schedule number: 93
Household Members:
Name Age
Luke Plunket 28 - carter / carman
Ann J Plunket 25
Mary J Plunket 4
Dorothy Plunket 3
James Barnes 17 - brother-in-law



Luke Plunkett
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Luke Plunkett
Age in 1911: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bootle cum Linacre
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 51 Audley St Bootle
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Carter General
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: Bootle
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Piece: 22423
Household Members:
Name Age
Luke Plunkett 38 - carter, hauling contractor, widower
Mary Jane Plunkett 14
Dorothy Plunkett 12
Elizabeth Plunkett 4 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Maybe "step" on Doris's travel record is the immigration clerk's mistake or confusion, because of Mr Edwards being her step-father?