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Good Morning

Would you be able to help to locate two children that I have had no joy in finding.

They are both on the 1901 Census - May Durrant (aged 10) and Victor Durrant (aged 7) both in the Workhouse at this point.

Their parents are Edward Ottaway Durrant & Celia Jane Whitehead.

If I can provide any more information, please let me know.

Many thanks for your time

Could this be Beatrice's birth with names the other way round? :-

First name(s) Alice Beatrice
Last name Whitehead
Birth year 1884
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Whitehead
District Elham
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 1045
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births

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Hi Gwyn

Thank you so much for going to the library for me, so generous

Sorry I have not replied until today - I only really get time to look into this on the weekends as at work during the week

I have ordered the marriage certificate so hopefully that will confirm the definitive date.

I did receive the death certificate for Celia and the informant of her death was her daughter Beatrice A Durrant - but I can only really find her on the 1891 census, cannot find a birth?

Appears from the Census (if correct) she was born in 1884 approx and Celia (Cecilia) married Edward in 1885

Any help from anyone would be really appreciated :-)

I went to Folkestone library this afternoon.
They have some Bishop's Transcripts for Newington, but they finish in 1870s so I wasn't able to check this marriage record.

The library holds actual filmed parish registers for many nearby villages and parishes, including St Leonards Hythe, so I'm happy to go back and look up any other information, which might be helpful for this family group.

One can freely view the original at Canterbury Cathedral Archives oneself.

I haven't been there for a while, but can easily access Folkestone, so will try there first.

That might be an idea, Gwyn. If they've a different set of scans. It might show it. Some of the date is too close the centre fold/binder.

Otherwise it would mean contacting Canterbury Archives who probably hold the original. As Archives normally charge for look-ups, the GRO version might be cheaper.

I can go into Folkestone library and check the date on the PR image, if you want.............

Should add - the date is unlikely to be 15 Mar 1885. Its partly obscured by the centrre fold.
The 4 dates on the double page (Middy was sent a cropped version) are
30 May 1885
26 Jul 1885
15 ??? 1885 <<<
27 ??? 1886

It's possible the Durrant marriage was in Nov.

Image sent by PM. Sorry for the delay. Sometimes 'real life' gets in the way!!

Ahh thank you so much for your help :-)

Findmypast

Kent, Canterbury Archdeaconry banns 1754-1928

First name(s) Edward
Last name Durrant
Banns year 1885
Banns date 30 Aug 1885, 6 Sep, 13 Sep
Place Hythe, St Leonard
Marriage year -
Spouse's first name(s) Celia Jane
Spouse's last name Whitehead
Residence parish Newington
Spouse's residence parish Of This Parish
County Kent
Country England
Archive Canterbury Cathedral Archives
Archive reference CCA/U3/282/1/C/2
Year range 1872-1885
Page 99

Marriage
First name(s) Edward
Last name Durrant
Birth year 1858
Marriage year 1885
Marriage date 15 Mar 1885
Place Newington Next Hythe, St Nicholas
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Durrant
Groom's age 27
Groom's father's first name(s) Robt
Groom's father's last name Durrant
Bride's age 21
Bride's father's first name(s) William
Bride's father's last name Whitehead
County Kent
Country England
Archive Canterbury Cathedral Archives
Archive reference U3/69
Year range 1838-1920
Page 69
Record set Kent, Canterbury Archdeaconry Marriages 1538-1928

Its a transcription error - Elizabeth is Ceilia Jane
He's from Newington, she's from the parish of Hythe.
All the males are Labourers.
Witnesses, who made their mark, are Thomas Durrant & Elizabeth Durrant.

Will down load and forward by PM

Hi All

Can I ask whether anyone is able to find a marriage certificate for Celia Jane Whitehead to Edward Durrant - OND 1885 in Elham - I have Ancestry but I cannot find it on there - I am going to request the certificate but thought I would see if anyone on here could help before I do?

Many thanks

Hi All

Can I ask whether anyone is able to find a marriage certificate for Celia Jane Whitehead to Edward Durrant - OND 1885 in Elham - I have Ancestry but I cannot find it on there - I am going to request the certificate but thought I would see if anyone on here could help before I do?

Many thanks

1901 Dover Union Workhouse.
Group of 5 stated as "Brother and Sisters (4)"
Just because Victor and Olivia both show as 7yrs does not necessarily mean that they were twins.
Consider at the pattern of the 5 stated birth places. Looks as if the family were moving between Dover & Folkestone?

I'm not seeing a birth for Victor.

The 1901 census shows differing birthplaces.......

Hi All

Would I be able to request some more help?

I am trying to locate two of Ivy's siblings - they appear to be twins??

Their names on the 1901 Census are Victor & Olivia Durrant

I just cannot seem to find them after their births?

Many thanks

In case you do not have it, the family were at 17 Finnymore Road , Dagenham in the 1939 register.

Thanks for the update. In that case we were on the right track after all.

Hi All

Just to let you know that I got the B/C for Ivy Margaretta Lily Durrant and Cecilia and Edward are her parents

Thanks

The original enquiry asked where to look for a baptism record of this lady

from the new GRO Index ..............

DURRANT, IVY MARGARETTA LILY mmn WHITEHEAD
GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in DOVER Volume 02A Page 956