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Good Morning

Would you be able to help to locate two children that I have had no joy in finding.

They are both on the 1901 Census - May Durrant (aged 10) and Victor Durrant (aged 7) both in the Workhouse at this point.

Their parents are Edward Ottaway Durrant & Celia Jane Whitehead.

If I can provide any more information, please let me know.

Many thanks for your time

Edith Durrant 1890 Dover, Kent, England 1901 Dover, Dover, Kent, England
Mary Durrant 1891 Folkestone, Kent, England 1901 Dover, Dover, Kent, England
Victor Durrant 1894 Dover, Kent, England 1901 Dover, Dover, Kent, England
Olivia Durrant 1894 Folkestone, Kent, England 1901 Dover, Dover, Kent, England
Ivy Durrant 1898 Folkestone, Kent, England 1901 Dover, Dover, Kent, England

this is the Durrant siblings in 1901,,,,

this appears to be Mays birth,whos been transcribed as Mary..

Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
Durrant May Sevenoaks 2a 654.

Hi Kay

That is them

Thanks for looking

Kind regards

1901 for our reference:

Victor Durrant
in the 1901 England Census
Name Victor Durrant
Age 7
Estimated Birth Year abt 1894
Relation to Head Brother
Gender Male
Birth Place Dover, Kent, England
Civil parish Dover
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Ecclesiastical parish Buckland St Andrew
Town Dover
County/Island Kent
Country England
Registration district Dover
Sub-registration district St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel Dover Union Workhouse
Neighbors
Piece 844
Folio 107
Page number 5
Household schedule number 1
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship

Edith Durrant 11 - Dover
Mary [May] Durrant 10 - Folkestone
Victor Durrant 7 - Dover
Olivia Durrant 7 - Folkestone
Ivy Durrant 3 - Folkestone

(and many other inmates)

They are bracketed together as "Brothers and sisters".


Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
Durrant Edward Elham 2a 1801
Whitehead Celia Jane Elham 2a 1801




DURRANT, EDITH ANNIE mmn WHITEHEAD
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in ELHAM Volume 02A Page 1005

DURRANT, EDWARD OTTAWAY mmn WHITEHEAD
GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in ELHAM Volume 02A Page 1039

DURRANT, OLIVIA ELSIE mmn WHITEHEAD
GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in DOVER Volume 02A Page 1005

DURRANT, IVY MARGARETTA LILY mmn WHITEHEAD
GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in DOVER Volume 02A Page 956



Sorry - can't see births of May or Victor.
I assume the births are what you're looking for.

By 1911 they will most likey be seperated and working,,,,,,

what are you looking to find.?

Hi

Yes it is the births - I know that both of them and a sister were sent to Canada in 1905 by Barnado's but that document doesn't provide much else to help me really

Thanks all for looking

On the HCC site it states,




UK Outbound Passenger List: Victor DURRANT, age 10

Ups and Downs (magazine published by the Canadian Branch of Dr. Barnardo's Homes, Toronto), May 1910: Victor G. DURRANT - Donation --- Source: Library and Archives Canada - Database Item Number: 233193




Siblings
BHC ID Surname Given Names
1689 DURRANT Mary
1683 DURRANT Dorothy
DURRANT Olivia
DURRANT Ivy
DURRANT Edith.


tDid Victor have a different mother?

Hi Kay

As far as I know they are all Celia's children - it does appear that some children used there middle name on some docs so I have requested the birth certificates for five of them just to confirm they are who I think they are

It is really Victor and Cecilia May that I cannot find their births - I can find a baptism for Cecilia in 1891 but no birth record - and can find nothing for Victor

So weird how some are registered but others a mystery

These are the only baptisms on FMP for the family

Durrant
Cecilia May
15/12/1891
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Folkestone, Kent, England

Durrant
Edith Annie
13/06/1889
11/08/1889
Kent Baptisms
Saltwood, Ss Peter & Paul, Kent, England

Durrant
Edward Ottaway
20/02/1887
11/08/1889
Kent Baptisms
Saltwood, Ss Peter & Paul, Kent, England

Thanks all for helping, it is really appreciated

I think they may stay a mystery for a while longer

Have a lovely Sunday

I am thinking that they were grouped together by Barnados and classed as brothers and sisters as Edith sems to have Whitehead as MMN on GRO.but not the named Victor or Mary May ......they did then with HCH all manner of things that were not the truth and in part illegal.......

There's no Dorothy Durrant reg with MMN Whitehead,,

Name Victor Durrant
Gender Male
Departure Age 10
Birth Date abt 1895
Departure Date 3 Aug 1905
Departure Port England
Ship Name Dominion
Shipping Line Dominion Line
Destination Port Quebec, Canada

No other Durrant child on this voyage

So true - so sad to think this went on

As far as I am aware it was only 3 out of the 7 children that were sent there - would always be nice to understand how some didn't as the youngest child Ivy was not sent and she ended up remaining in the UK as she is my other half's great nan

Coincidence?

Name Victor Gordon Durant........of Ontario, Canada. Occ: Engineer
Gender Male
Marriage Age 41
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1897
Marriage Date 12 Feb 1938
Marriage Place Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Parish as it Appears Neutral Bay St Peter
Father Edward Ottoway Durant
Mother Olga Durant, nee Marsden
Spouse Marjorie Eileen Blackie

Victor G Durrant went in 1910 as a HC,

May 1910: Victor G. DURRANT - Ship Donation --- Source: Library and Archives Canada - Database Item Number: 233193,


3rd Agust 1905 depart ,,arrival 12 august Quebec.

Victor 1895 and Mary 1892 Durrant from Dover Union.


A DNA could hold many answers and cut research down.

Just confirming one point from all the earlier discussions

WHITEHEAD, ALICE BEATRICE -
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in ELHAM Volume 02A Page 1045


Illegitimate when registered

Thanks all - yes, have found the above it is just the births which for some reason cannot be found

"May" in 1901 census is presumably Cecilia May.

She's not with the family in 1891 census, so presumably born between April 5th 1891 and Dec 15th.


Edward Durrant
in the 1891 England Census
Name Edward Durrant
Gender Male
Age 32
Relationship Head
Birth Year 1859
Spouse
Cecilia Durrant
Child
Beatrice Durrant
Floria Durrant
Edward Durrant
Edith Durrant
Birth Place Dover, Kent, England
Civil parish Folkestone
Ecclesiastical parish St Saviour
Residence Place Folkestone, Folkestone, Kent, England
Registration district Elham
Sub registration district Folkestone
ED, Institution or Vessel 5
Neighbors
Piece 749
Folio 22
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Edward Durrant 32 Head
Cecilia Durrant 25 Wife
Beatrice Durrant 7 Daughter
Floria Durrant 5 Daughter
Edward Durrant 4 Son
Edith Durrant 1 Daughter


Edith and Edward's births already posted.

WHITEHEAD, ALICE BEATRICE -
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in ELHAM Volume 02A Page 1045

DURRANT, MARY ELIZABETH FLORENCE mmn WHITEHEAD
GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in ELHAM Volume 02A Page 1028

So you had the Australian info??

All the births on this page were posted some years ago...................

EDIT:
Now I find I'm just repeating things already posted on earlier pages.


Edward with a different (?) "wife" and the two above daughters in 1901:

Edward Durrant
in the 1901 England Census
Name Edward Durrant
Age 42
Estimated Birth Year abt 1859
Relation to Head Head
Gender Male
Spouse Elizabeth Durrant
Birth Place Dover, Kent, England
Civil parish Dover
Search Photos
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Ecclesiastical parish Hougham Christ Church
Town Dover
County/Island Kent
Country England
Registration district Dover
Sub-registration district St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel 08
Neighbors
Piece 842
Folio 28
Page number 10
Household schedule number 70
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Edward Durrant 42 Head
Elizabeth Durrant 31 Wife
Alice Durrant 19 Daughter
Florence Durrant 15 Daughter