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26 Jun 2017 20:14 |
Interestingly Donald returned to his birthplace in 1913 as an Assistant Lecturer in Geology at Bristol Univ. At the outbreak of the Great War he enlisted as a Dispatch Rider and was commissioned into the RE in 1915. He returned to Bristol Univ. after WW1 1919. He was appointed Lecturer in Geology at St Andrews a year later.In 1927 he was given the status of Reader and in 1936 appointed Chair.... (Taken from report in Citizen Newspaper Saturday 24 10 1936)
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26 Jun 2017 19:22 |
Thomas Prosser Margrate 1844-1923 at 9,Melrose Place 1881/91/1901/11 until his death.
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26 Jun 2017 18:46 |
Name: Donald Esme Isaacs Baptism Date: 19 Dec 1888 Baptism Place: Clifton, St John the Evangelist, Gloucestershire, England Father: Donald Isaacs Mother: Anne Isaacs
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26 Jun 2017 18:29 |
AG- We're having thoughts along the same lines.
I only see the transcription of the baptism (19th December 1888) for Donald. Can anybody see the original? I was wondering if the address was the same as on the birth certificate.
Adverts in the newspapers indicate there were apartments/ rooms to rent at 9 Melrose Place around the time of Donald's birth.
also- wanted ads in Dec 1887 & Jan 1888 for ' Strong, clean, county girl, about 17"- apply Mrs Margrate 9 Melrose Place. Did the strong clean country girl get pregnant?
Hopefully I'll get time to look at this in more detail tomorrow.
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Chris Ho :)
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26 Jun 2017 17:57 |
http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/index.php
(above can be useful IOW, if her below)
1851 ISAACSON Annie Elizabeth STOKES Calbourne Ca5/P69
Marriages Jun 1840 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------------ ISAACSON John Frederick Tamworth 16 492 STOKES Rebecca Tamworth 16 492
Chris :)
Cambridge University Alumni, 1261-1900 (Ancestry)
Name: John Frederick. Isaacson College: ST JOHN'S Entered: Michs. 1821 Died: 19 Aug 1886
More Information: Adm. pens. at ST JOHN'S, July 8, 1820. [2nd] s. of the Rev. John (1786), of Suffolk. [B. Oct. 15, 1801.] School, Norwich. Matric. Michs. 1821; Bell Scholar, 1822; B.A. (Senior Classic) 1825; 1st Chancellor's medal, 1825; M.A. 1828; B.D. 1835. Fellow and tutor. Lecturer (at that time designated ‘tutor’) at King's, 1829-39. Ord. deacon (Ely) May 29, 1825; priest, Nov. 5, 1826. R. of Freshwater, Isle of Wight, 1839-86. Hon. Canon of Winchester, 1874-86. Married, May 13, 1840, Rebecca, dau. of H. Stokes, of Tamworth. Died Aug. 19, 1886, at Freshwater. Father of the next two. (St John's Coll. Adm., IV. 327; Eagle, XIV. 236; Foster, Index Eccles.; Clergy List; Crockford, 1886; The Guardian, Aug. 25, 1886, which says, ‘He was…elected also Tutor (sic) of King's, probably the first time in which the latter post had been held by one who was not an old Etonian’; G. Mag., 1840, II. 89; J. Saltmarsh.)
Name: Isaacson . John Frederick. College: ST JOHN'S Entered: Michs. 1860 BORN: 1842 Died: 15 Mar 1885
More Information: Adm. pens. at ST JOHN'S, June 13, 1860. [Elder] s. of the Rev. John Frederick (above) [and Rebecca]. B. [1842], at Freshwater, Isle of Wight. Bapt. Mar. 27, 1842. [School, Charterhouse.] Matric. Michs. 1860. Migrated to St Mary Hall, Oxford, whence he matric. Oct. 18, 1862, age 20. Lived at Linton, Cambs. Married and had issue. Died Mar. 15, 1885, at Shanghai. Brother of the next. (List of Carthusians; Al. Oxon.; The Guardian, June 3, 1885.)
Baptism County Suffolk Place Lidgate Church name St Mary Register type Transcript Baptism date 15 Oct 1801 Birth date 13 Oct 1801 Person forename John Frederik Person sex M Father forename John Father surname ISAACSON Mother forename Catherine Mother surname ISAACSON Register note Rev John ISAACSON
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
Edits (various newspaper items, regarding Father)
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C706530
(Lieutenant Donald Esme ISAAC-INNES. Royal Engineers.)
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ArgyllGran
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26 Jun 2017 17:26 |
Re Annie possibly being Donald's mother -
circumstantial "evidence"? - just random thoughts - at some time between 1881 and 1891 the sisters moved from the Isle of Wight to Oxford. Possibly after their father's death in 1886, and they would then have been financially independent - as stated in censuses - and able to live where they wanted. Possibly when Donald was expected ??
He was born in Bristol - a long way from both IoW and Oxford, where nobody would know Annie ??
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Maddie
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26 Jun 2017 17:18 |
perhaps issacs is a shortened version of issacson. I wonder what made the girls move to oxfordshire, i presume after fathers death
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ArgyllGran
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26 Jun 2017 17:12 |
Robert F was a brother of Annie, Catherine and the others.
The Alfred Isaacson, grandson, who is with the family in 1881, was born in Peru, and was the son of another brother, Henry, even though the Ancestry transcription says Catherine was his mother:
[Greyghost has already posted the FMP version, but here's Ancestry's]
Alfred H. Isaacson in the 1881 England Census Name: Alfred H. Isaacson Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relationship to Head: Grandson Mother: Catherine S. Isaacson Gender: Male Where born: Peru Lima (British Subject), America Civil Parish: Freshwater County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: The Rectory Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Isle Of Wight ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1188 Folio: 49 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age John F. Isaacson 79 Mary R. Isaacson 31 Annie E. Isaacson 29 Catherine S. Isaacson 26 Alfred H. Isaacson 5 Bessie A. Parkhouse 24 Clara B. Farmer 18 Fanny Hills 16 Alice Hills 13
There are various travel records for Henry to and from Peru, Panama, Mollendo, etc, and Alfred's with him in at least one record. Henry's on the UK 1911 census, described as a "South American merchant".
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26 Jun 2017 17:06 |
Her Father in 1861 with his parents and sisters - the ladies who adopted Donald
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Rectory, Stroud, Freshwater, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John F Isaacson Head Married Male 49 1812 Rector Of Freshwater Lidgate, Suffolk, England Rebecca Isaacson Wife Married Female 45 1816 - Clifton Campville, Staffordshire, England Transcription John F Isaacson Son Unmarried Male 19 1842 Pupil St Johns Coll Cambridge Hampshire, England Thomas F Isaacson Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Scholar Hampshire, England Robert A Isaacson Son Unmarried Male 13 1848 Scholar Hampshire, England Mary K Isaacson Daughter Unmarried Female 11 1850 Scholar Hampshire, England Anna E Isaacson Daughter Unmarried Female 9 1852 Scholar Hampshire, England Catherine Isaacson Daughter Unmarried Female 6 1855 Scholar Hampshire, England George Baird ... Unmarried Male 18 1843 Private Pupil Russia Transcription Mary A Jolliffe Servant Unmarried Female 27 1834 Cook Hampshire, England Martha Powditch Servant Unmarried Female 22 1839 Parlourmaid Lynn, Norfolk, England Emily L Page Servant Unmarried Female 23 1838 House Maid Southampton, Hampshire, England Louisa ... Servant Unmarried Female 10 1851 Nurse Maid Southampton, Hampshire, England
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26 Jun 2017 17:02 |
With her family in 1891
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Bessborough Gardens, Westminster, St George Hanover Square, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert F Isaacson Head Married Male 43 1848 Clerk Public Record Office Hampshire, England Hannah M Isaacson Wife Married Female 43 1848 - - Gladys B Isaacson Daughter - Female 5 1886 - London, Middlesex, England Sybyl M Isaacson Daughter - Female 3 1888 - London, Middlesex, England Lilian G Isaacson Daughter - Female 0 1891 - London, Middlesex, England Elizabeth Smith Servant Widow Female 58 1833 Domestic Servant Cook Norfolk, England Ada L Dodds Servant Single Female 21 1870 Domestic Nurse London, Middlesex, England Sarah A Mann Servant Single Female 22 1869 Domestic Parlour Maid London, Middlesex, England
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26 Jun 2017 17:01 |
Baptism of the lass he married.
Westminster Baptisms Transcription
First name(s) Lilian Grace Last name Isaacson Birth year 1890 Birth date 28 Jul 1890 Baptism year 1890 Baptism date 24 Aug 1890 Father's first name(s) Robert Fraser Mother's first name(s) Hannah Maria Parish Holy Trinity, Vauxhall Bridge Road County Middlesex Country England Page 163 Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre Record set Westminster Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms
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26 Jun 2017 16:53 |
annie in isle of white 1881
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription The Rectory, Freshwater, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John F Isaacson Head Widower Male 79 1802 Rector Of Freshwater Lidgate, Suffolk, England Transcription Mary R Isaacson Daughter Single Female 31 1850 - Hampshire, England Transcription Annie E Isaacson Daughter Single Female 29 1852 - Hampshire, England Transcription Catherine S Isaacson Daughter Single Female 26 1855 - Hampshire, England Transcription Alfred H Isaacson Grand Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar United States Transcription Bessie A Parkhouse Servant Single Female 24 1857 Ladys Maid Domestic Servant Littleham, Devon, England Transcription Clara B Farmer Servant Single Female 18 1863 Parlor Maid Domestic Servant Hampshire, England Transcription Fanny Hills Servant Single Female 16 1865 Housemaid Domestic Servt Hampshire, England Transcription Alice Hills Servant Single Female 13 1868 Nursemaid Domestic Servt Hampshire, England
father died 1886
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ArgyllGran
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26 Jun 2017 16:49 |
Don't know what truth there is in this:
"Born Donald Esme Isaacs, little is known of his life, but he appears to be a Jew of Scottish descent. "
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Donald_Esme_Innes
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AustinQ
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26 Jun 2017 16:45 |
I wonder if Annie Isaacson was actually his mother. I've not done any digging yet, but wonder is the father was Donald Stewart?
Annie's late father was a Reverend. The family seemed well known, well off, and connected. Having an 'adopted' child wouldn't have damaged her social status- an illegitimate child would have been a little embarrassing within her social circle and family.
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26 Jun 2017 16:42 |
an Innes connection, probably donald
1901
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 30, Warnborough Road, Oxford, Oxford St Giles, Headington, Oxfordshire, First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Annie E Isaacson Head Single Female 49 1852 Living On Own Means Freshwater, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Transcription Mary R Isaacson Sister Single Female 51 1850 Living On Own Means Freshwater, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Transcription Catherine S Isaacson Sister Single Female 46 1855 Living On Own Means Freshwater, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Transcription Leonard E Innes Adopted Son Single Male 12 1889 - Clifton, Gloucestershire, England -------------------------------------------------------- Transcription Kate Pearman Servant Single Female 19 1882 - Kirtlington, Oxfordshire, England Transcription Fanny Urry Servant Single Female 14 1887 - Freshwater, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
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26 Jun 2017 16:40 |
In 1901 he's listed as Leonard, without the Isaacs. Doesn't make any difference, I know - clearly just a mistake by the census clerk:
Leonard E Innes in the 1901 England Census Name: Leonard E Innes Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Relation to Head: Adopted Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Clifton, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: St Giles Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip and St James Town: Oxford County/Island: Oxfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Headington Sub-registration district: St Clement ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1381 Folio: 101 Page Number: 13 Household schedule number: 68 Household Members: Name Age Annie E Isaacson 49 Mary R Isaacson 51 Catherine S Isaacson 46 Leonard E Innes 12 Kate Pearman 19 Fanny Urry 14
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26 Jun 2017 16:32 |
Mr Donald Esme Innes
in the Fife, Scotland, Cupar Library Newspaper Index Cards, 1833-19
Name: Mr Donald Esme Innes Publication: Courier & Advertiser, General Index Publication Date: 24 Apr 1936 appointed to the chair of geology University Court of St Andrews
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Donald Esme Innes From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Prof Donald Esme Innes FRSE MC was a 20th century Scottish geologist. Life
Born Donald Esme Isaacs on 22nd November 1888 to Donald Isaacs and Anne Isaacs (formerly Stewart) in Clifton, Bristol. He was bought up by Annie and Catherine Isaacson in Oxford from a very early age. He went to Repton and studied Sciences at Oxford University and graduated in 1911 with 1st class honours, specialising in Geology. He was awarded the Burden Coutts scholarship for post-graduate work and he later became Professor of Geology at St Andrews University.
He won the Military Cross in the First World War.
He gained his hockey blue while a student at Oxford and played for St Andrews university from 1920 to 1924. He played for Scotland from 1922 to 1924 and captained the side in 1923 and 1924.
In June 1924 he changed his name by Deed poll to Donald Esme Innes. At this time he was living at 23 Lathbury Road in Oxford.[1]
In 1925 he married Lilian Grace Isaacson, and they had one son, Donald John, born in 1932.
In 1936 he was elected a Fellow of the Royal Society of Edinburgh. His proposers were Thomas James Jehu, Sir D’Arcy Wentworth Thompson, Robert Campbell and Robert Meldrum Craig. . He resigned from the Society in 1953.[2]
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26 Jun 2017 16:11 |
British Army Service Records Transcription
Learn more Print transcription First name(s) Donald Esme Last name Isaac-Innes Rank Lieutenant Regiment Royal Engineers Year 1914-21 Archive The National Archives Archive reference WO 374/36401 Series WO 374 Series description Wo 374 - Officers' Services, First World War, Personal Files Record set British Army Service Records Category Military, armed forces & conflict Subcategory Service Records Collections from Great Britain, UK None
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26 Jun 2017 14:10 |
Occupation was Gentleman and address was 9 Melrose Place, Clifton. The Isaacs must have been renting as the property was owned by the same people in the 1881 and 1891 census and there is no mention of any Isaacs/Stewart on either
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26 Jun 2017 13:08 |
What was the occupation of father and address on the birth certificate?
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