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Hi can anyone help I am looking for Thursday Rose Read born 1894 Bosmere Suffolk I believe she died in 1960's and was married to Thomas Markwell living in Stowmarket, I cannot find anything about Thomas or their marriage. Any help much appreciated.

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Re Thursday Rose Read

Births Sep 1894 (>99%)
Read Thursday Rose Bosmere 4a 800

READ, THURSDAY ROSE mother GARNHAM
GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in BOSMERE Volume 04A Page 800


so very likely her parents

Marriages Dec 1887
GARNHAM Martha Bosmere 4a 1421
READ George Bosmere 4a 1421


and unsurprisingly she went by her middle name :-)

1901 census in Needham Market

George Read 45
Martha Read 39
James Read 12
Frederick Read 10
> Rose Read 6 born Needham Market
Florence Read 4
George Read 11/12


in 1911

Name: Rose Read
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated Birth Year: 1894
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Needham, Suffolk, England
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 55 Collingwood Avenue, Muswell Hill N
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: General Servant Domestic
Registration district: Edmonton


this might be a good bet for her marriage, at nearly 21, using Thursday as her middle name

Marriages Jun 1915
Read Rose T Smith Stow, S. 4a 2486
Smith Frederick P Read Stow S. 4a 2486


and her remarriage

Marriages Jun 1920
Markwell Thomas J Smith Stow 4a 2450
Smith Rose T Markwell Stow 4a 2450

her death

Name: Rose T Markwell
Birth Date: abt 1895
Date of Registration: Mar 1968
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Gipping
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 1278


I wonder whether Frederick was killed in WWI ... but I don't see an F Smith at the CWGC site with wife Rose named, to match.


Her second husband's death

Name: Thomas J Markwell
Birth Date: abt 1885
Date of Registration: Jun 1959
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Gipping
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 719


I can't identify any children of either marriage, especially given how common her first husband's surname was.


Two other people at this site have Thursday Read in their trees. Do you know them?

There's a closed record with them in 1939 -

Markevell Household Stowmarket U.D., Suffolk, England

Thomas Markevell 1884
Rose Markevell is also on this record
1 more person who is officially closed

There were four Smith / Read children born in Suffolk between 1915 and 1920, three in Mutford district and one in Woodbridge reg district.

Niether of those districts covers Stowmarket, Gipping, Needham, or Bosmere, so can't say definitely if any of the children are Thursday's.


EDIT:

There was a Markwell / Read birth in Ipswich in 1934 - maybe relevant ??
You can look it up on FreeBMD.

That child married in Deben, Suffolk in 1955.
And remarried in 1972, again in Deben.

Two possible children of the first marriage, born in Plymouth in 1958 and 1961.

Looking at 1939 image, would say below...

Chris :)

MARKWELL, THOMAS JOHN (WELHAM)
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in STOW Volume 04A Page 751


Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Thomas John
Last name Markwell
Baptism year 1885
Baptism date 18 Jan 1885
Parish Stowmarket, St Peter & St Mary
Place Stowmarket
Relationship Son
Father's first name(s) Isaac
Mothers first name(s) Emma Jane
Father's occupation Engine Driver
Residence Stowmarket


Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
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MARKWELL Isaac Stow 4a 1195
WELHAM Emma Jane Stow S 4a 1195


1939 Register (Find My Past)

97 Lime Tree Place, Stowmarket U.D., Suffolk, England
Rose Markevell 19 Jul 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Thomas Markevell 03 Dec 1884 Male Electrical Linesman Married

My stick-to-it-iveness failed me on that 1939 register result :-)


There was a Mr Smith + Ms Read marriage in Ipswich in 1906 ... and you simply would not believe the number of Smith+Read marriages and births generally.

1900-1915 there were 10 Mr Smith + Ms Read marriages in Suffolk besides Frederick & Rose.

In 1934 Rose would have been 40, could have been a surprise first child.

But a Ms Read + Mr Markwell marriage in Woodbridge in 1931 might account for that birth.

I guess Jennifer didn't get the memo about returning to her thread ...

Many thanks to you all, I am not used to getting so much help and so quickly. I have tried contacting several members over the last year or so requesting info from their trees but getting no reply I am at present rather overcome.

Once again many thanks. Jenny

Jenny

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