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Whilst searching my family I came across the term "left M.S." But not sure whether this refers to USA or Canada can you help please Regards. Thomas

Can you say where you found the record so we could try to have a look?

Kath. x

kath from findmypast Horace Roper travelling either from or too Canada August 1912. Thomas

(think reference was below)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1363622

Chris :)

SylviaInCanada Report 7 Dec 2016 21:17

from FindMyPast .............

United States, Canadian Border Crossings Transcription

First name(s) Horace
Last name Roper
Sex Male
Age 27
Birth year 1885
Birth country England
Birth place as transcribed England
Event Immigration
Year 1912
Date 1912
State Vermont
Country United States
Source (M1464) Manifests of Passengers Arriving in the St. Albans, VT, District through Canadian Pacific and Atlantic Ports, 1895-1954
Source 2 Roll 197, vol 208, Oct-Nov 1912
Record set United States, Canadian Border Crossings
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from United States & Canada

from image (bit hard to read):-

Occupation:- Locomotive Foreman
Left M.S Aug 1912 (can'r read place name)
Place of last Residence: USA, Durand, Mich
Father:- Fred (!!) Roper, 20 Walton, Long Eaton, Engand

Travelling with Eva Roper ............
Wife
Age 29
Born in USA
Father:- O. D. Barnes, R.F.D.2, Byron, Mich, USA

This isn't quite the record you found, Thomas, but Horace and several other passengers have "Left MS" and a date against their names. Actually, only the British passengers have that.

Horace Roper
in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1825-1960
Name: Horace Roper
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1885
Birth Country: England
Arrival Date: 1 Nov 1912
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Victorian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Residence Country: USA
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 8

It's not MS - it's US.

Left M.S Aug 1912 (can'r read place name)

(think next written was Pt. Huron)

Chris :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Huron,_Michigan

Thanks everyone for your help you never fail to come up with the answers. Regards Thomas

(another for him also, as below)

Chris :)

United States, Canadian Border Crossings Transcription (Find My Past)

Horace Roper — — — England

First name(s) Horace
Last name Roper
Sex Male
Age 27
Birth country England
Birth place as transcribed Peterboro England
Event Immigration
Date 1895-1924
State Vermont
Country United States

Do you have this?

Horace Leonard Roper

in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928, 1933-1934
View Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928, 1933-1934

Name: Horace Leonard Roper
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1884
Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1908
Marriage Place: Essex, Ontario, Canada
Father: T J Roper
Mother: Martha Hibling Roper
Spouse: Eva Laura Kelley

His usual residence was Durand, Michigan.
Father F.J. Roper, engineer.
Mother Martha Hibling.
Bride Eva Laura Kelley.
Her residence Durand.
Her father John Kelley, blacksmith
Her mother June Middleworth.
Married Windsor, Essex, Ontario..

This is the marriage of daughter of Horace Leonard but she gives mother's name as Zora Ellen San.

Horace Leonard Roper

in the Michigan, Marriage Records, 1867-1952
View Michigan, Marriage Records, 1867-1952

Name: Horace Leonard Roper
Gender: Male
Spouse: Zora Ellen San
Child: Jane Ann Roper
Film: 209
Film Title: 76 Shawassee 2500-5699
Film Description: Shiawassee (1934 - 1943)

Lots of info on his obituary here:

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=170033675&ref=acom

Thought this sounded familiar.

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