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Birth:
HOSIER, ELIZABETH EMMA mms MANSER
GRO Reference: 1856 D Quarter in THE ISLINGTON DISTRICT Volume 01B Page 258


Parents' marriage:

Marriages Dec 1850 (>99%)
Hosier Joseph Edward E London 2 263
Manser Elizabeth E London 2 26

CANE, CHARLES WILLIAM HOSIER Order
GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in HAMPSTEAD Volume 01A Page 655

Alfred (James) Cain on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Cain Household (3 People) 4 Gilbert Grove , Hendon M.B., Middlesex, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Alfred (James) Cain 09 Sep 1914 Male Motor Driver Single 227 3
Charles Cain 06 Jan 1874 Male Builder's Labourer Married 227 1
Mary A Cain 05 Dec 1874 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 227 2

Elizabeth was Joseph's daughter from earlier marriage.

His second marriage:
Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%)
BATES Mary Hampstead 1a 1018
Hosier Joseph Hampstead 1a 1018



Elizabeth Hosier
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Hosier
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Hosier
Mother's name: Elizabeth Hosier
Gender: Female
Where born: St Lukes, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Islington
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 109
Piece: 146
Folio: 13
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Hosier 31
Elizabeth Hosier 34
Joseph Hosier 13
Elizabeth Hosier 6
Nancy Hosier 10/12
Homer Hosier 6 (actually Thomas mistranscribed)



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Elizabeth Emma Hosier
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Elizabeth Emma Hosier
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 Nov 1856
Father's name: Joseph Hosier
Mother's name: Elizabeth Hosier
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers


Death of sister Nancy??

Nancy Mary Hosier
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Nancy Mary Hosier
Registration Year: 1862
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 210

I was working backwards from a Frances M Cain who was born in St Pancras 1915 to Charles William Cain and Mary Ann Bass. I really hope i havent gone wrong. Id be absolutely gutted.

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Elizabeth Hosier
in the 1871 England Census

Name: Elizabeth Hosier
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Hosier
Mother's name: Mary Hosier
Gender: Female
Where born: Solington
[Islington, Middlesex]
Civil Parish: Hampstead St John
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Hampstead
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Hampstead
Sub-registration district: Hampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 140
Piece: 190
Folio: 79
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Hosier 42
Mary Hosier 43
Elizabeth Hosier 14 - daughter
John Bates 18 - son
Mary Bates 15 - daughter
Henry Bates 11 - son
Ann Bates - daughter (age 8, though not transcribed on Ancestry)
William Bates 6 - son


All the Bates children born Hampstead.

Ah sadly upon looking into the marriage certificate the grooms father is listed as Solomon which wasn't Charles's fathers name.. im now slightly worried i have got the wrong family :-(

Birmingham! What was they doing there?! Oh thats amazing! Thank you so much Safc!

Oh poor Thomas! I wonder what was wrong with him? :-(

This looks like the son Thomas in hospital:

Thomas Cain
in the London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930
Name: Thomas Cain
Birth Date: 1879
Admission Age: 10
Admission Date: 13 Dec 1889
Record Type: Admission
Borough: Camden
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hampstead
Place: London, England
Title: Register of Workhouse Sick Wards, 1887-1890


Father: Charles Cain, 41 Fleet Road, Hampstead.
Brought in to the Receiving Ward, by PC591




Birth:

CAIN, THOMAS JOSEPH mms HOSIER
GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in HAMPSTEAD Volume 01A Page 654 Order

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
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First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Hosier
Name note -
Marriage year 1873
Marriage date 02 Nov 1873
Marriage place Birmingham
Spouse's first name(s) Charles
Spouse's last name Cane
County Warwickshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
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so the mothers maiden name is Hosier??

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Marriages Dec 1873 (>99%)
CANE Charles Birmingham 6d 183
HOSIER Elizabeth Birmingham 6d 183
PEARCEWRIGHT Elizabeth Birmingham 6d 183
SHIERS Arthur Birmingham 6d 183

ame: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
CANE, FREDERICK ALBERT HOSIER Order
GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in HAMPSTEAD Volume 01A Page 650

Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
CANE, ROSIE MATILDA HOSIER Order
GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 127 Order

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All those children are correct, they had a total 8 children that i know of.

CANE, ALFRED CHARLES KNOWLES Order
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 727

Rose Matilda Cane

in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
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Name: Rose Matilda Cane
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 17 Nov 1897
Father's name: Charles Cane
Mother's name: Elizabeth Cane
Parish or Poor Law Union: Kentish Town St Martin
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 18 Feb. 1897.

Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
CANE, ALFRED HOSIER Order
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in HAMPSTEAD Volume 01A Page 680 Order
CANE, ALFRED HOSIER Order
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in HAMPSTEAD Volume 01A Page 680

Alfred Cane

in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
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Name: Alfred Cane
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Mar 1889
Father's name: Charles William Cane
Mother's name: Elizabeth Cane
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hampstead St Saviour
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 1 Feb. 1889.

Willie George Cain

in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
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Name: Willie George Cain
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Aug 1884
Father's name: Charles William Cain
Mother's name: Elizabeth Cain
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hampstead St John
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 25 Aug. 1881.

Frederick Albert Cain

in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-190

Name: Frederick Albert Cain
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Aug 1884
Father's name: Charles William Cain
Mother's name: Elizabeth Cain
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hampstead St John
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers
Born 21 June 1883