Genealogy Chat

Did your James marry Ada Amanda Pankhurst in 1878?

Going back to the name of the tug, if you look at James surname the t is like the third letter in the boats name. It seems to end in eor and I think it could read Meteor.

Your oppions please?

Hi All, thank you for replying and the information provided. I certainly will use the tiny url next time. Thanks for that tip. I hadn't a clue what I was doing but kinda got there in the end although I now know that I can minimise the link. You learn something every day. I will continue to look for this tug.

Kind regards

Kathryn

I think it says H M tug "ireland" and the bottom word is Chatham.

Look at the address of 49, Ordnance Street Chatham, its written the same and that would be Kent as far as I know.

As his address is in Chatham and the informant was the coroner for Kent, I think that almost certainly the tug was based in Chatham Dockyard.

Kathryn, next time you have a very long url, you might find this useful

http://tinyurl.com/

Yes, spotted this now, sometimes one looks at things too hard and misses clues. Have tried looking now for an HM Tug Iceland but still not coming up with anything and again looking at the last part of the place of death that now does not look like Chatham. URGH!!!!!!

Kind regards

Kathryn

I think Andysmum is correct in that it says H.M. Tug because if you look at the "T" at the beginning of the date when registered it looks the same as the beginning of the word after H.M.

The name could easily be Iceland or Ireland.

Kath. x

Hi Kathleen, yes, you are right, I've just used a really strong magnifying glass and the wording you described looks exactly the same. I still can't make out for sure about the Ship though but it looks like Detective and Andysmum are looking into this. Am wondering if there was a report in one of the Newspapers at that time re the Inquest. I know sometimes Inquests were reported. Sorry to hear that your Aunt suffers from this but thank god for people who've been around at the time.

Thanks once again for your input.

Kind regards

Kathryn

I'm pretty sure the cause of death is right. I have an aunt who suffers from Syncope and she quite often collapses when she's out and about. Luckily someone has always managed to get her an ambulance and get her to hospital quickly.

Kath. x

Hi all thanks for your time, help and input. Much appreciated. If anyone wishes I could PM the certificate if it makes it easier to read/decipher. We will get there. I'm intrigued.

Kind regards

Kathryn

I think it says H M Tug Iceland, Chatham followed by an abbreviation for dockyard.

I tried using a magnifying glass, but it didn't really help.

Kathryn sent me a copy by PM
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I’m wondering if its H M Frig(ate) Ireland at Pentland Hd (Head) . There is a Pentland in Firth. As Ireland is in inverted commas, it’s likely it was the name of the vessel he died on. Others may have different opinions.

The second one.

Kath. x

Hiya, we must have been messaging at the same time. Okay, thank you, not sure then what H.M. Frigate "Ireland" is. Hopefully someone on here who is knowledgeable with Naval issues might be able to shed some light. I have tried searching for a ship with that name but it doesn't come up with anything.

Thank you for your help and time spent in the deciphering department. Much appreciated. By the way which link opened up in the larger format, the first or second one I posted?

Kind regards

Kathryn

It's o.k. - your second link makes it bigger. See my second post.

Kath. x

Hi Kathleen, thank you for replying, not sure how to enlarge it as Detective had informed me to do. If it is okay with you I could PM it to you and see if it would come out larger to enable to read. Am not very computer literate when it comes to things like enlarging etc.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Having looked at the larger image I think the place of death might be H.M. Frigate "Ireland" ??? (not sure about "Ireland" - it could be another name.)

Cause of death - Syncope from failure of the heart's action.

Kath. x

The certificate is very small when clicking on your link and I can't enlarge it.

However I think the cause of death looks like Syncope - which as far as I know is a sudden collapse caused by a fall in blood pressure. It says something like found somewhere. The death must have been unexpected as there was an inquest and the coroner is the informant. I can't make out the place of death.

Kath. x

Maybe this one comes out larger.

http://mediasvc.ancestry.co.uk/v2/image/namespaces/60623/media/cdbacbec-916d-49a4-809f-2dfa5f4a7441.jpg?client=Boards

Kind regards

Kathryn

Not sure if this is right!!!!

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/_resources/keepsafe/thumb.ashx?id=26326862&at=1&mk=8671034&ok=8671034&c=False&ff=False&pl=1&w=640&h=640&q=70&as=0&rk=&d=http://cdn.genesreunited.co.uk/_resources/images/keepsafe/notavailable_640x640.jpg&ex=1392EC118CA033B12CC283BA6721BA84