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Just my thoughts:

If the marriage certificate is the only form where the names William John appear, this sounds more like the Registrar's error. Or whoever copied from his original notes. Sometimes the names from the entry above or below are copied by mistake. Lack of concentration..

If the father's name on May's birth certificate is Arthur, then it's very unlikely that May would have been told that her real father was some other man. Even if it were true.

May was born 7/5/1900 at 8 Sunbury Building ?I have just noticed that Arthur Eade is listed as her father on the birth certificate but it is actually the marriage certificate where William John Eade (deceased)

Arthur Frank the son of Georgina Delphine Stark a ladies maid of Clapham was born 28/1/1897. No father is named on the certificate. Address 71 Cottage Grove, Clapham.

Thanks

Thanks for posting all that extra information Chris.

I've still got no idea :-S

(below taken from google search, past queries)

Chris :)


Birth 1900. 8 Sunbury Buildings, Bethnal Green
May Delphine Emily
Father: Arthur Eade, Police Constable
Mother: Delphine Stark
Her mother Delphine was pregnant with May when she married Arthur Eade.

Marriage 1925:
May Delphine Emile Eade to William Val Miles in the parish of Plumpstead, Kent.
Fathers name and surname William John Eade (deceased) Florist.????



She gave birth to Arthur Stark. Born on 28th January 1897 at Clapham Maternity. On his birth certificate she is listed as G.D stark (Georgina Delphine Stark) so looks like she might have changed her name later to Delphine. There is no father listed on Arthurs birth certificate but she later married my Grandfather whoose name was also Arthur and she became Delphine Georgina Eade.

Delphine Georgina Starks residence in 1897. 71 Cottage Grove, Clapham, London, ladies maid.

Residence at time of marriage 1900, 1 Hamburgh Place, High Street, Sydenham. It looks like she lived with Alice E Piggott and her husband Henry Piggott who also lived at this address (as per 1901 census). Alice E Piggott was a wet nurse. Listed at Witness at Delphines marriage. Also witness was D Causley? I have looked into this and it looks like part of a church building where illigitemate mothers went.


(just to add, Alice also at 1 Hamburgh Place 1911, with Tom Starkes age 13, as Thos Sparkes age 3, 1901)

Lucy, could you let us know the addresses where Arthur and May were born please.

Here are the images for Chris Ho's posts from:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1416598

They're not indexed yet, so I took the "Browse through 293,156 images" link

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6XY8-VH?i=195&owc=collection%2F1416598%2Fwaypoints&wc=92BG-16N%3A29910101%2C29373001%2C29686001&cc=1416598

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DR89-82?i=99&owc=collection%2F1416598%2Fwaypoints&wc=92BF-PY8%3A29908601%2C29359202%2C30034001&cc=1416598

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D19S-L3Y?i=69&owc=collection%2F1416598%2Fwaypoints&wc=92BL-V8Z%3A29441501%2C29359202%2C29499601&cc=1416598

It wouldn't let me check on ancestory without joining and unable to at the moment.

Thanks Sylvialin, i will look into that as sounds the same!

who was Mary E Eade??

The Eade Family Tree on ancestry, owner davidbanks06

has her as the eldest child of Arthur Eade and Delphine Stark

He shows her as born 1891 in London, but with no further information.

He seems to be descended from Arthur Frank Eade

There are several William John Eade's of approximately the right age, living in London and area, on the 1911 Census :-(

Thanks Chris, That was my posting 5 years ago but I am just trying to see if
I can shed any new light as new information emerges all the time ;-)

Another Genes Member shares Delphine Stark and Arthur Eade Birth 1869, not sure if you have had contact with her, wonder if she can shed any light...


'Search all Member Trees' (top right of page here, under 'Search')


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1235069

(also a previous)

Chris :)

edits

British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records 1912-1939 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Arthur
Last name Eade
Birth year 1869
Birth date 15 Jul 1869
Birth town Norwich
Birth county Norfolk
Occupation Caretaker
Attestation year 1914
Attestation date 16 Oct 1914
Attestation age 44
Service number 145234
Marriage year 1900
Marriage date 22 Feb 1900
Child's first name(s) May Delphine Emily
Child's birth date 07 May 1900
Archive reference AIR 79/1312
Next of kin first name(s) May Delphine Emily
Next of kin last name Eade
(says Mrs. Eade., Maid Head Hotel Norwich Temp address. Details for Daughter written on side. Address on Discharge. The Limes Bakery, Trimley St. Mary nr. Ipswich Suffolk)



Lucy Report 14 Nov 2015 10:25

Arthurs dad was Thomas E Eade and I have compiled a tree cheking the census returns to confirm.

(you state above, but have you got Certs, in particular, 1869 Birth for Arthur?)


Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%)
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Baur Julia Windsor 2c 915
SLARK Albert Windsor 2c 915

(and perhaps above, for that 1871 Albert and Julia Stark, Little Exeter Street, Marylebone)


Births Mar 1867 (>99%)
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SLARK Georgiana Delfine Easthampstead 2c 402
SLARK Georgina Delfine Easthampstead 2c 402


Deaths Dec 1917 (>99%)
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Slark George A 74 Easthampstead 2c 492


Civil service evidence of age Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Albert
Last name Slark
Birth year 1843
Birth date 26 Aug 1843
Place Easthampstead
County Berkshire
Event type Birth
Reference 65069 073
(Father George, confirming his son Albert, born on above date, and that the register in district where son was born, having been searched, no entry could be found. Dated 4th May 1869. Albert was now a Candidate for the office of attendant, of the Broadmoor asylum)

So I have now found a William J Eade who died in the borough of Chelsea in 1917 aged 40 so this would tie up with him being the father of May. She was born in Bethnal Green.

Thanks safc for posting the possible Stark link but our Starks were all fron Berne in Switzerland

The mystery father of May delphine emilie Eade is shown as William John Eade (deceased) undsr fathers name and surname when she married William Val Miles in 1925.
As the Mother Delphine gave birth to May on 7/5/1900 he must have died between September 1899 (9 Months before her birth) and 1/8/1925 when she married

(does below relate to Arthur, seeing Catton?)

Baptism
County Norfolk
Place New Catton
Church name Christ Church
Register type TR
Register entry number 1036
Baptism date 23 Oct 1871
Person forename Thomas Edward
Father forename Thomas
Father surname EADE
Father occupation Shoemaker
Mother forename Elizabeth

(also)

Florence May EADE Baptism 17 Oct 1886 Norfolk Norwich (St Augustine)

Walter EADE Baptism 17 Oct 1886 Norfolk Norwich (St Augustine)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/


(below, perhaps?)


Births Jun 1863 (>99%)
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EADE Thomas Edward Norwich 4b 110


Births Sep 1869 (>99%)
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Eade Arthur Norwich 4b 96


Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%)
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Eade Thomas Ward Norwich 4b 309
Glover Elizabeth Norwich 4b 309


County Norfolk
Place Norwich
Church name St Clement
Register type
Register entry number 383
Marriage date 07 Oct 1860
Groom forename Thomas Ward
Groom surname EADE
Groom age 21
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom occupation Shoemaker
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname GLOVER
Bride age 22
Bride condition Spinster
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname EADE
Groom father occupation Tailor
Bride father forename Joseph
Bride father surname GLOVER
Bride father occupation Land steward
Witness1 forename Thomas
Witness1 surname BAKER
Witness2 forename Harriet
Witness2 surname EADE
Notes Second witness signed with a mark


Deaths Dec 1903 (>99%)
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Eade Thomas Ward 63 Norwich 4b 71

Chris :)

(could be below)

County Norfolk
Place Norwich
Church name St Clement
Register type
Register entry number 86
Marriage date 21 Nov 1841
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname EADE
Groom condition Widower
Groom occupation Tailor
Bride forename Harriet
Bride surname WARD
Bride condition Widow
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname EADE
Groom father occupation Trowsterer
Bride father forename Daniel
Bride father surname BARHAM
Bride father occupation Carpenter
Witness1 forename Maria
Witness1 surname COCK
Witness2 forename Nathaniel
Witness2 surname BEALES
Notes Bride and groom and witness one signed their marks

????

Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
STARCK Charles Adolphe Brighton 2b 449 xxxxxxxxx
STOKES William John Brighton 2b 449
Williams Harriett Annie Brighton 2b 449


Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
Bateman Elizabeth May Brighton 2b 419
BONIFACE David Brighton 2b 419
Downing Celia Brighton 2b 419 xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
KNIGHT Amelia Letitia Brighton 2b 419
Wells James Brighton 2b 419

Name: Charles Adolphus Stark
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Event Place: Battersea, London, Middlesex, England
County: London, Middlesex
Civil Parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Marks
Sub-District: South West Battersea
Registration District: Wandsworth
Residence Note: Battersea Rise
Gender: Male
Age: 40
Occupation: SUPERINTENDENT HEAD WAITER
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1861
Birthplace: County Of Newchald Switzerland
Schedule Type: 288
Page Number: 43


Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Charles Adolphus Stark Head M 40 County Of Newchald Switzerland
Celia Stark Mother F 40 Brighton, Sussex
Louisa Antoinette Stark Daughter F 18 Brighton, Sussex
Charles Henry Town Stark Son M 16 New Cross
Samuel Ernest Stark Son M 14 Brixton
Cecili Mary Stark Daughter F 12 Brixton
Marguerite Emma Stark Daughter F 11 Brixton
Amy Rosina Stark Daughter F 9 Brixton
Ethel Violet Stark Daughter F 6 Brixton
Cyril Edward Stark Son M 0 Brixton



Citing this Record:
"England and Wales Census, 1901," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9HY-HGX : accessed 14 November 2015), Charles Adolphus Stark, Battersea, London, Middlesex, England; from "1901 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing South West Battersea subdistrict, PRO RG 13, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
24 Drayson Mews W, Kensington, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
C A Stark Head Married Male Waiter Hotel 50 1861 Switzerland
Transcription
Celia Stark Wife Married Female - 48 1863 Brighton
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Charles Henry Stark Son Single Male Hotel Waiter Reserve 2nd Dragoon Gds 26 1885 New Cross
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Samuel Ernest Stark Son Single Male Accountant 24 1887 Brixton
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Cecile Mary Stark Daughter Single Female Waitress Restaurant 22 1889 Brixton
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Amy Rosina Stark Daughter Single Female Dressmaker 19 1892 Brixton
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Cyril Edward Stark Son Single Male School 10 1901 Brixton

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
86, Battersea Rise, Battersea, Wandsworth, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Adolphus Stark Head Married Male 40 1861 Superintendent Head Waiter -
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Celia Stark Mother Married Female 40 1861 Stationer News Agent & Tobacco Brighton, Sussex, England
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Louisa Antoinette Stark Daughter Single Female 18 1883 - Brighton, Sussex, England
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Charles Henry Town Stark Son Single Male 16 1885 - New Cross
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Samuel Ernest Stark Son Single Male 14 1887 - Brixton, England
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Cecili Mary Stark Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Brixton, England
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Marguerite Emma Stark Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - Brixton, England
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Amy Rosina Stark Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Brixton, England
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Ethel Violet Stark Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Brixton, England
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Cyril Edward Stark Son Single Male 0 1901 - Brixton, England

charles is from switzerland

could be delphines brother