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My x2 great grandmother on my mothers paternal side was Sarah Maria Hardy daughter of Richard Hardy and Caroline Eliza Dawson. Sarah Maria Hardy also moved to Bromley having married Thomas Bernard Morley in Burton on Trent, therefore there is a strong possibility that Emma is either her sister or possibly a cousin, but cannot be a coincidence.

What occupation is given for her father Richard?
What are the witnesses names or are they from the Grooms side?

Bought the wedding cert Emma must of lied about her age her father was Richard Hardy on the cert her age is stated as 25 so that would put her born around 1869 but on the 1871 census it states her age as 5!!!

I am looking for any details of my great grandmother Emma E Hardy born 1869 married Edward Driscoll in 1894, they had 7 children, Ellen in 1895, Dorothy 1897, Edward 1899, Gertrude 1902, Harry in 1908 my grandfather Tom in 1910 and Alice in 1912. Emma died in 1928 in West Ham London, any photos of the family would be appreciated even of Emma's parents who were William Hardy and Susannah Maddox x thank you in advance

http://www.curiousfox.com/vill100/Staffordshire17142_1.html

(google search brings above, probably the one mentioned earlier)

Chris :)


Staffordshire baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Emma Elizabeth
Last name Hardy (Age 15)
Baptism year 1883
Baptism date 14 Feb 1883
Baptism place Burton upon Trent, St Modwen
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) William (occ. Cooper)
Mother's first name(s) Susanna
County Staffordshire
Archive reference D4219/1/8
Page 104
(Abode, Shobnall Road)


Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1867

HARDY Emma Elizabeth Burton-on-Trent Newcastle-Under-Lyme BOT/034/072

http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/index.php


Births Dec 1867 (>99%)
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Hardy Emma Elizabeth Burton 6b 316


Staffordshire marriages Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Emma Elizabeth
Last name Hardy
Age 26
Birth year 1868
Marriage year 1894
Marriage date 04 Jul 1894
Marriage place Horninglow, St John the Divine
Denomination Anglican
Residence Shobnall
Father's first name(s) William (occ. Foreman Cooper)
Father's last name Hardy
Spouse's first name(s) Richard Edwards
Spouse's last name Knight
Spouse's age 29
Spouse's residence Winshill
Spouse's father's first name(s) Richard
Spouse's father's last name Knight
County Staffordshire
Archive reference D4277/2/2
Page 103


National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Emma
Last name Hardy
Birth year 1866
Birth date 14 Nov 1866
Event year 1875
School name Bloxwich National Girls School
Town Bloxwich
County Staffordshire
Parent name(s) Emma Hardy
Book type Admissions
Archive reference Acc1605_T9
Archive Walsall Local History Centre
(Residence, Station Street)


(if below/)

Births Dec 1865 (>99%)
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Hardy Emma Burton 6b 324


Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1865

HARDY Emma Burton-on-Trent Newcastle-Under-Lyme BOT/030/051


Staffordshire baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Emma
Last name Hardy
Baptism year 1867
Baptism date 01 Aug 1867
Baptism place Burton upon Trent, St Modwen
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Richard (occ. Brass Founder)
Mother's first name(s) Caroline Eliza
County Staffordshire
Archive reference D4219/1/7
Page 924
(Abode, Burton)

Leigh do please come back and let us know, I can see that you have Tom Driscoll in your tree as per the 1911, perhaps your mum already has the marriage cert giving Emma's father's name.

My mother and grandmother used to say Emma E and also definitely shobnall street, will have to speak to my mother today to find out anything else she knows as my grandfather died (Emma's youngest son) in the 1970's.

Why are you looking for an Emma E Hardy? There's no middle initial listed when she marries or dies.

Rose

1881, the image is very indistinct but I think Emma has been mistranscribed as Annie here, this is the Emma on the 1871 I posted.

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
31, Broadway Street, Burton Extra, Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England


Richard Hardy Head Married Male 53 1828 Brass Finisher Derby, Derbyshire, England
Caroline E Hardy Wife Married Female 41 1840 - Derby, Derbyshire, England
Sarah M Hardy Daughter Single Female 20 1861 Dressmaker Derby, Derbyshire, England
Richard Hardy Son Single Male 18 1863 Plumbers Apprintice Burton, Staffordshire, England
Annie Hardy Daughter Single Female 15 1866 Scholar Burton, Staffordshire, England
Harriett E Hardy Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Burton, Staffordshire, England
Thomas D Hardy Son Single Male 3 1878 - Burton, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Hardy Father Widower Male 81 1800 Cordwainer Ruddington, Nottinghamshire, England

Looks like her in 1891 having gone to Bromley

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Aylesbury Road, Bromley, Kent, England


Daniel J Elliott Head Married Male 25 1866 Brick Layer Crayford, Kent, England
Ada Elliott Wife Married Female 24 1867 - Bromley, Kent, England
Emma Hardy Visitor Single Female 25 1866 Servant Domestic - Burton on Trent <<<<<<<
Frederick Jarman Boarder Married Male 32 1859 Actor Kreatrical Ramsey, England
Florence Jarman Boarder Married Female 21 1870 Actress Kreatrical Sunderland

Right so you don't want the one in Shobnall road... have you got the marriage cert for Edward Driscoll and Emma?

Yes she married my great grandfather Edward Driscoll and died in West Ham am getting so confused, I know that William and Susannah are not relations and their daughter is the one that married Richard knight as I have been in touch with someone on Curious Fox....

This is the Emma E Hardy that married Richard Knight

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Rollestone Road Burton-On-Trent, Outwoods, Staffordshire, England

Richard Edwards Knight Head Married Male Brewer S Mall Foreman 46 1865 Christ Ch P Burton on Trent
Emma Elizabeth Knight Wife Married Female - 44 1867 Christ Ch P Burton on Trent
Anne Knight Daughter Single Female Apprentice Millinery Shop 15 1896 Burton on Trent
Florence Jane Knight Daughter - Female School 13 1898 Winshill Burton on Trent
Dorothy Knight Daughter - Female School 10 1901 Hornington Burton on Trent
Kate Elizabeth Knight Daughter - Female School 8 1903 Outwoods Burton on Trent
Richard Lempster Knight Son - Male School 5 1906 Outwoods Burton on Trent

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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Station Street, Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

Richard Hardy Head - Male 43 1828 - Derbyshire, England
Caroline Eliza Hardy Wife - Female 31 1840 - Derbyshire, England Transcription
Sarah Maria Hardy Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Derbyshire, England
Emma Hardy Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Staffordshire, England <<<<<<
Harriett Ellen Hardy Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Staffordshire, England
Charlotte Hannah Biggs Visitor - Female 12 1859 - Nottinghamshire, England

1911

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
44 Devonshire Road, West Ham, Essex, England

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Emma Driscoll Head Married Female - 45 1866 Staffs Burton on Trent
Helen May Driscoll Daughter Single Female Domestic Servant 16 1895 Kent North Woolwich
Dorothy Emma Driscoll Daughter - Female - 14 1897 Essex West Ham
Edward Richard Driscoll Son - Male School 12 1899 Essex West Ham
Gertrude Alice Driscoll Daughter - Female - 9 1902 Essex West
Harry Cornelius Driscoll Son - Male - 3 1908 Essex West Ham
Tom William Driscoll Son - Male - 0 1911 Essex West Ham

No middle initial on the marriage to Driscoll

First name(s) EDWARD
Last name DRISCOLL
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1894
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ EDWARD DRISCOLL married one of these people
ROSETTA CAMPAN, EMMA HARDY
District BROMLEY
District number -
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 828
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

I assume it's this one

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
44, Devonshire Road, West Ham, Essex, England


Edward Driscoll Head Married Male 33 1868 Gas Stoker St Luke's, Middlesex, England
Emma Driscoll Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England
Ellen M Driscoll Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Essex, England
Dorothy E Driscoll Daughter - Female 5 1896 - West Ham, Essex, England
Edward R Driscoll Son - Male 2 1899 - West Ham, Essex, England

Do you have the marriage cert for Emma's father's name ?

that Emma married Richard Knight

Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1894
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HARDY Emma E KNIGHT Richard E Horninglow, St John Newcastle-Under-Lyme 211/02/2

Are you sure that is the right marriage and the right Emma? as there is this one in Burton

First name(s) EMMA ELIZABETH
Last name HARDY
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1894
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ EMMA ELIZABETH HARDY married one of these people
SAM BULL, RICHARD EDWARD KNIGHT
District BURTON UPON TRENT
District number -
County Staffordshire
Country England
Volume 6B
Page 575

1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Shobnall Road, Burton Extra, Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England


William Hardy Head Married Male 48 1833 Cooper Burton, Staffordshire, England
Susannah Hardy Wife Married Female 45 1836 - Lichfield, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Hardy Son Single Male 22 1859 Cooper Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
William Hardy Son Single Male 20 1861 Cooper Burton, Staffordshire, England
Ernest Jno Hardy Son Single Male 18 1863 Engine Cleaner (Fact Lab) Burton, Staffordshire, England
Edwin Hardy Son Single Male 15 1866 Clerk Burton, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Emma C Hardy Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar Burton, Staffordshire, England
Albert Hardy Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Burton, Staffordshire, England
Maria Hardy Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Burton, Staffordshire, England
Anne Hardy Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Burton, Staffordshire, England
Walter Hardy Son Single Male 4 1877 Scholar Burton, Staffordshire, England

1871

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Queen Street, Burton Extra, Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England


William Hardy Head - Male 38 1833 - Staffordshire, England Transcription
Susannah Hardy Wife - Female 35 1836 - Middlesex, England
Thomas Hardy Son - Male 12 1859 - Staffordshire, England
William Hardy Son - Male 10 1861 - Staffordshire, England
Earnest T Hardy Son - Male 8 1863 - Staffordshire, England
Heneretta Hardy Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Staffordshire, England
Edwin Hardy Son - Male 5 1866 - Staffordshire, England
Emma E Hardy Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Staffordshire, England
Albert Hardy Son - Male 1 1870 - Staffordshire, England

for ref

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Shobnall Road, Burton Extra, Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England


William Hardy Head Married Male 58 1833 Cooper Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England
Susannah Hardy Wife Married Female 55 1836 - Fradley, Staffordshire, England
Emma E Hardy Daughter Single Female 23 1868 Dressmaker Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England
Albert Hardy Son Single Male 21 1870 Postman Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England
Anne Hardy Daughter Single Female 17 1874 - Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England