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A tree on ancestry, with a picture of John, has this for his parents.



David Blackburn
Birth 1799 in Kirby, Yorkshire, England
Death 4 April 1861 in Richmond, Yorkshire North Riding



Margaret Hird
Birth 1791 in Marrick, Yorkshire, England
Death 27 Aug 1863 in Marske, Yorkshire, England

Children



Mary Blackburn
1827 –

James Blackburn
1831 –

John Blackburn
1831 – 1901

Jane Blackburn
1835 –

Is this the marriage of your ancestors?


England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
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First name(s) John
Last name Blackburn
Name note -
Marriage year 1853
Marriage date 09 Jul 1853
Marriage place Barningham, York, England
Father's first name(s) David
Father's last name Blackburn
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Nicholl
Spouse's father's first name(s) George
Spouse's father's last name Nicholl
Spouse's mother's first name(s) -
Spouse's mother's last name -
Residence Barningham, York, England


BARNINGHAM:
Geographical and Historical information from the year 1835.

"BARNINGHAM, a parish in the western division of the wapentake of GILLING, North riding of the county of YORK, comprising the townships of Barningham, Hope, and Scargill, and containing 564 inhabitants, of which number, 384 are in the township of Barningham, 2 miles S.S.W. from Greta-Bridge. The living is -a rectory, in the archdeaconry of Richmond, and diocese of Chester, rated in the king's books at £19. 17. 1., and in the patronage of the Crown. The church is dedicated to St. Michael. There is a place of worship for Wesleyan Methodists. A school, conducted on the National plan, is endowed with about £25 per annum: the school-room was rebuilt in 1820."

Have found a more complete marriage listing for John Blackburn & Elizabeth Nicholl on family search.org which has his father listed as David Blackburn! May be wasting everyone's time looking for William Blackburn! Sorry folks, any suggestions on David Blackburn ......

Thank you all. William can be found probable birth date marriage bonds and death plus the 1841 and 1851 census. But the wife? Only the 1841 C has her as Ann. The marriage in 1828 to Jane Deighton may well be another William Blackburn - there are certainly lots of them about and children don't always have to be born on the right side of the marriage, but it seems odd that it has him as born in Whitby as in the 1851 C - probably too much of a coincidence?
May be I am looking at completely wrong Blackburns and need to revisit this. I have traced the family line to John Blackburn b. 1831 Stockton who married Elizabeth Nicholl b. 1832 in Yorkshire. I have births, deaths and marriage for them. Plus their children's births show them as parents and the census all tie in. I have gone with this William Blackburn as his father because the son John works in the 1841 and 1851 census but this could be wrong. It is John and Elizabeth's daughter, Elizabeth Jane Blackburn that married Robert Chisholm who is my husbands great great grandfather. As there are so many Blackburns around the area I may have to look for another possible father for a John Blackburn b around Stockton in 1831 ( plus or minus a year to allow for census round ups)
Oh to be looking for a family with a unique name!
:-D

First name(s) Jane
Last name Blackburn
Name note -
Marriage year 1844
Marriage date 05 Feb 1844
Marriage place St. Thomas' Church, Stockton-On-Tees, Durham, England
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Blackburn
pouse's first name(s) George
Spouse's last name Hugill
Spouse's age 0
Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph
Spouse's father's last name Hugill
Residence Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, England
Place Stockton-on-Tees
County Durham
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973

First name(s) William
Last name Blackburn
Gender Male
Marital status -
Occupation -
Event year 1860
Birth year 1797
Age at death 63y
Burial year 1860
Burial date 25 Mar 1860
Burial place Stockton-On-Tees, Durham, England
Residence Stockton
Place Stockton-on-Tees
County Durham
Country England
Record set England Deaths & Burials 1538-1991

HIs birth year is recorded as 1797 in 1851, which means that in 1841, it was rounded down, as was the norm.

You need to be looking for a marriage BEFORE 1821, bearing in mind the info about children on 1841 census.

.............the eldest could have been born as early as 1816

The border between Northumberland and Durham has always been the River Tyne

Stockton is on the river Tees

There are a lot of William Blackburns in the area.
It looks like William and Ann's first child was born in 1821 so the 1828 marriage is probably someone else.

Familysearch has a lot of images of Durham records which are not yet transcribed. Unfortunately there are hundreds to browse through. Just looking at marriages for 1820 there are over 700. If you have a few hours to spare you might find something useful!!!!!!

Thanks, that probably explains what happened to Ann but where does Jane fit in?

Death for Ann?


National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription

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First name(s) ANN
Last name BLACKBURN
Birth year 1795
Death year 1847
Age 52
Burial year 1847
Burial day 18
Burial month 7
Place STOCKTON
Church description HOLY TRINITY
Church denomination ANGLICAN
County Durham

That's interesting, the marriage bond in the Durham records is for the same year but for Stockton. I am a bit confused as to the county borders in those days between Northumberland and Durham.
This marriage is to Jane Deighton.
The 1841 census has the wife as Ann?
The first child, Jane was born in 1821 the second, William in 1827. Not that that matters!
Can find no other records for daughter Jane but son William married and had a family so I have traced him.
May be he had two wives!!!! He is alone with 3 sons in the 1851 C but still calls himself married. No trace of Ann after 1841.

this looks like the william


Northumberland and Durham Marriages Transcription

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First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name BLACKBURN
Marriage year 1828
Marriage day 18
Marriage month Sep
Place TYNEMOUTH
Groom's first name(s) William
Groom's last name Blackburn
Groom's parish Whitby
Bride's first name(s) Jane
Bride's last name Deighton
Bride's parish -
Description Tynemouth, Christ Church
County Northumberland
Country England
Record set Northumberland and Durham Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

Thank you have been looking at the Durham records online but hoping to get my facts lined up before buying the credits, this tracing your ancestors is getting expensive :-D
That sounds like the right William for both the bonds and birth of Elizabeth. Will now have to have a look for a Hewson - possibly his mothers name?
Thanks

hi
david

if you go to durham records online. com
there are
william blackburn marriage bonds 1828 born about 1807 whitby

you have to sign up and buy credits

he could be your william

????

Name: Elizabeth Hewson Blackburn
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 27 Jan 1833
Christening Place: St Thomas', Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Hewson Blackburn
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann Blackburn
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02866-6
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 1894160
Reference ID:



Citing this Record:
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLZ7-42S : accessed 2 May 2015), William Hewson Blackburn in entry for Elizabeth Hewson Blackburn, 27 Jan 1833; citing St Thomas', Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, England, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,894,160.

Thank you all. Had found the 1841 census with wife Ann and the 1851 with just William and 3 sons.
Son John b 1831 I have traced as he is our direct line. Have found William married to Isabel and a miner in Northumberland. Michael became a butcher married to Susannah and lived at Paradise St Stickton until he died in 1899.
Haven't found much on the other children.

1841 just for info

Name: William Blackburn
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Stockton Upon Tees
Hundred: Stockton (South West Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Stockton and Sedgefield
Sub-registration district: Stockton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 317
Book: 27
Folio: 19
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
William Blackburn 40
Ann Blackburn 40
Jane Blackburn 20
William Blackburn 14
Margaret Blackburn 12
John Blackburn 10
Elizabeth Blackburn 8
Michael Blackburn 6
George Blackburn 4



Have you traced all children in 1851 or their deaths

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Thistle Green, East Side, Stockton, Stockton & Sedgefield, Durham, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
William Blackburn Male 40 1801 -
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Ann Blackburn Female 40 1801 -
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Jane Blackburn Female 20 1821 -
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William Blackburn Male 14 1827 -
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Margaret Blackburn Female 12 1829 -
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John Blackburn Male 10 1831 Durham, England
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Elizabeth Blackburn Female 8 1833 Durham, England
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Michael Blackburn Male 6 1835 Durham, England
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George Blackburn Male 4 1837 Durham, England
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Isaac Whitehead Male 56 1785 Durham, England
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Dorothy Whitehead Female 30 1811 Durham, England
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Joseph Chipchase Male 66 1775 Durham, England
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Catharine Chipchase Female 52 1789 -

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cherry Lane, Stockton, Durham, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Blackburn Head Married Male 54 1797 Tailor Whitby, Yorkshire, England
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John Blackburn Son Unmarried Male 20 1831 Engine Fitter Stockton, Durham, England
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Michael Blackburn Son Unmarried Male 15 1836 Errand Boy Stockton, Durham, England
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George Blackburn Son Unmarried Male 13 1838 Scholar Stockton, Durham, England