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Hi Sue
Interesting information I will have to do some study to see if the same church rules
applied in 1936 onwards I don't think he was a religious man
I've also employed a researcher fortunately I did get a result in this instant and might go down this track again
I'm looking into the electoral rolls to help in a location as to where he was after 1936
and then do a cemetery search for that area, I've located several relatives this way
some shire councils are extremely helpful.

Tony
Australia 12:40pm

Hi Jacqueline
Yes he was the innocent party the divorce paper make good reading, co-defendants
Hotels dates etc. bit different these days.
My grandfather had two sons both deceased also their wives
I visited the UK last year and caught up with my cousin who was born a number of years after me my grandfather had passed on well before we were born
Tom Beedham was my grandfathers brother he's on the War memorial in Boroughbridge his mother Hannah is buried there, incidentally the last recorded address of my grandfather. Thomas had one child Winifred I have been in contact with her descendants they couldn't help either
Tony Beedham
11:30am

First name(s) ELLA
Last name BEEDHAM
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1928
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ELLA BEEDHAM married
WILLIAM M ROBSON
Spouse's last name ROBSON
District GREAT OUSEBURN

First name(s) Charles F.
Last name Beedham
Service number 202051
Rank Private
Badge number B121439
Enlistment date 02-Dec-1915
Discharge date 12-Feb-1919
Unit from which discharged West Yorkshire Regt.
Cause of discharge Wounds 392 (xvi)
Whether served overseas Yes
Badge date of issue 03-Mar-1919
Age on discharge 22
Record set Silver War Badge Roll 1914-1920
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War


BEEDHAM CHARLES F 1897 1963 1963 Deaths & burials York, Yorkshire, England

BEEDHAM, T

Rank:Private
Service No:19348
Date of Death:13/04/1918
Age:28
Regiment/Service:Coldstream Guards 3rd Bn.
Grave Reference: Nouveau Monde Ger. Cem. Mem. 41.
Cemetery:PONT-DU-HEM MILITARY CEMETERY, LA GORGUE

Additional Information:Son of William and Hannah Beedham; husband of Ada Beedham, of Roecliffe Lane, Boroughbridge, Yorks.


First name(s) THOMAS
Last name BEEDHAM
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1915
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ THOMAS BEEDHAM married
ADA CREIGHTON
Spouse's last name CREIGHTON

There doesn't have to be a death cert. as I have found to my cost!

I know when and where my great grandfather died ( 1895 ) but have tried everything to find it incl. wider searches of name, place and date at GRO, and in the local Register Office. I have also the details of all the local church registers where the only gap is the registers for a period of a few years just when he died! The births of his twins born several months after his death are also not to be found.

I booked a slot with an expert at last years WDYTYA show, who eventually said that it seemed that for whatever reason those church registers were never passed on and recorded centrally. So no death cert!

Sue

Have you followed-through on his siblings?

Might any of their descendants have knowledge of him?


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Fishergate, Boroughbridge, Great Ouseburn, Yorkshire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Beedham Head Married Male 41 1850 General Labourer Copmanthorpe, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Hannah Beedham Wife Married Female 34 1857 - Thirsk, Yorkshire, England Transcription
William H Beedham Son Single Male 10 1881 Scholar Yorkshire, England Transcription
Arthur Beedham Son Single Male 8 1883 Scholar Yorkshire, England Transcription
Hannah Beedham Daughter Single Female 6 1885 Scholar Yorkshire, England Transcription
Robert Beedham Son Single Male 4 1887 Scholar Yorkshire, England Transcription
Thomas Beedham Son Single Male 0 1891 - Boroughbridge, Yorkshire, England


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Fishergate Boroughbridge, Boroughbridge, Yorkshire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
William Beedham Head Married Male 61 1850 Yorks Copmanthorpe Highway Labourer Transcription
Hannah Beedham Wife Married Female 54 1857 Yorks Thirsk - Transcription
Thomas Beedham Son Single Male 20 1891 Yorks Boroughbridge Mineral Water Labourer Transcription
Mary Ellen Beedham Daughter Single Female 18 1893 Yorks Boroughbridge General Servant Domestic Transcription
Emily Beedham Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Yorks Boroughbridge - Transcription
Charles Frederick Beedham Son Single Male 14 1897 Yorks Boroughbridge Errand Boy Transcription
Ella Beedham Daughter - Female 4 1907 Yorks Boroughbridge -

TWO of ELEVEN children born in marriage have died

If he received costs, he must have been the 'innocent party' in the divorce

Hi Sylvia
I check both suggested sites Scotland and Ireland and no luck so far, I corresponded with Ancestry some time back and no one could come up with a date however for most it was a distant relative. My parents and anyone who might
have known him have passed on. although quite young I don't ever recall him being mentioned in family conversation, possibly the divorce not a common occurrence
back in those days, he was never to be mentioned in the family again
Who Knows
Tony

Hi Shirley
Just a quick update Arthur and Cecil were Arthur Snr sons they joined the army together and served in Palestine before the ww2. to my knowledge their father never re-married in fact there appears to be no information on him after his divorce, the last mention of him 15th June 1936 were he was paid 175 pounds court
costs a princely some in those days.
On and Off I've been looking for quite some time he could be still alive he'd be 133
this year or granny could of bumped him of and buried him in the cellar. the mind could run wild with imagination
Tony
11:00 am

Tony

you have to look on Scotland's People ......... which is a pay per view site. I think you can search for free, and see if anything turns up, but then you have to buy credits to actually see what the records say

Thanks Sylvia
I'd never considered that Scotland's BMD was separate from England and Wales
This will certainly give me a new avenue to look at.
I did all the passenger list available newspapers etc.
One of my great successes was finding my G.G.Father's marriage in Quebec city
to Margaret Mullins in1863 they are buried "unfortunately" separately in England
and not very old 34 and 37

Tony 9:00am

I have re-checked, and he does not appear in the Passenger Lists leaving or returning to the UK

I did see that there are several trees on ancestry that have him on there.

None however seems to have his death



Tony .............. in saying that there had to be a death certificate, I was assuming that he had indeed died in England or Wales.

I was also thinking of the possibilities of Beedham being mis-interpreted as Leedham, Needham, etc

You would have to look elsewhere if he moved to Scotland (on Scotland's People, a pay-per-view site), an Irish site, or see if there are records of him travelling overseas.


I did not see any records of travel, but will check ancestry again

so they divorced in 1936 have you looked for a possible remarriage after then

Hi Sylvia
A Death certificate requires a body, He could of gone overseas and died
My grandmother ran a pub after the divorce 1936-53 I have the records of
her occupancy and also police records of being fined 3 pounds for being open after
hours good old granny LOL
Just in passing Sylvia my mother's side of the family has Canadian roots
It's evening here and I've had some throat lubrication LOL, I shall catch up tomorrow
thanks all
Tony Beedham Grumpy OAP

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Spouse's first name(s) -
Spouse's last name -
First name(s) ARTHUR R
Last name BEEDHAM
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1947
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ARTHUR R BEEDHAM married
CONSTANCE SENIOR
Spouse's last name SENIOR
District DEWSBURY
District number -
County Yorkshire
Country England
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Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
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Maybe

First name(s) Arthur
Last name Beedham
Service number 225355
Rank Private
Corps East Yorkshire Regiment
Service record Soldier Number: 225355, Rank: Private, Corps: East Yorkshire Regiment
Archive reference WO372/2
Archive reference description Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards
Country Great Britain
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Record set World War One British Army medal index cards
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
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So they only had the two boys. Is it possible they parted and Arthur senior remarried

Wonder if Arthur's family may have any info

First name(s) ARTHUR R
Last name BEEDHAM
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1908
Age 60
Death quarter 4
Death year 1968
District LOWER AGBRIGG
County Yorkshire
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Page 505
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Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials


Edit now picking up his birth


First name(s) ARTHUR RIBY
Last name BEEDHAM
Birth year 1908
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District WAKEFIELD
County Yorkshire
Country England
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