Genealogy Chat

Shirley yes I'm in the process of getting they certs
Thank you

Just adding names without checking them out may send you down the wrong family path

You need to follow the family back by getting certs for each generation and checking them on the census.,s

Hi everyone I've now got a lot further in researching my tree with your help Jacqueline was right my great grandad was Charles not frederick as I thought I am now searching for he's dad I have added a john richardson and Mary warren as he's parents but I think maybe I could be wrong john just sounds very random as Charles was passed down through the family
Can anyone help
Thank you

English and Welsh certificates post 1837 should only be bought from
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Each one will cost £9.25 which includes world wide P&P.

Once you've registered and start to complete the order form, the first page asks if you know the GRO reference number. Tick YES then complete the form using the details from the index and nothing else.

Thank you Jacqueline
That's my nan Eileen and how do I buy a birth and marriage certificates on here and yes Frederick was a bit of a red herring turns out to be his grandad Many thanks for all your replies

As the mother married Hummerston as Cook, you can't possibly identify the father of the Richardson child(ren) without buying a copy of the birth cert(s)

'Charlie' in 1911 is the right chap, clearly

'Frederick' was a red herring

If you are trying to find who Mary married, look for the spouse as LESLIE, which is the male version of the name

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
ALLEN Eileen E M Mackie Camberwell 1d 1639


First name(s) EILEEN ELIZABETH M
Last name RICHARDSON
Gender Female
Birth day 29
Birth month 5
Birth year 1914
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 2002
District BROMLEY
District number 2221A
Register number A39
Entry number 071
Date of registration mm/yy 0302
County Kent

Death index gives birth as 21st Feb 1909
I think you need to buy the marriage cert for him to confirm his father's name

My grandfather was Charles fredrick richardson who died in Bermondsey in 1988 he was in 1909 in Mitcham he was married to Eileen Elizabeth Mary Allen in 1933 in Camberwell they lived in wren road also lived in Cameron house comber grove Camberwell se5
I have just spoken to a friend of the family And she said that my great granddad was Charles William and hes father was fredrick so my great grandad Charles William richardson And Elizabeth Cook who had I think 7 children who were james(Jimmy) Mary Annie, Charles fredrick and Mabel and Lucy I know that only 5 I will find out their names who later went on to marry Walter Alfred hummerston and had another 6 children
Apparently my great great grandad Frederick moved to Norwich and Mary went with them where she met Lesley ( I'll find out he's name later) and married in Norwich they owned a pub in old catton I can remember going there as a child with my father also fredrick richardson had a few paper mills and was quite well off
Also Elizabeth had a daughter called Elizabeth before she got with my great grandad apparently she was crippled after falling down the stairs
Hope this is useful and makes sense
Thank you for help
My great grandad Charles died when he was in his late 30s or early 40s and that was when she met hummerston

I have just sent a message to her so hopefully she may answer thanks for your advice

Hi your answers have been very helpful will get back once I have spoken to my elderly living relatives thank you again for your time and expertise

I think this might be her, but not with a Fredrick Richardson.... three of the children are correct

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1911 England Census about Jack Richardson
Name: Jack Richardson
Age in 1911: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Clapham, London, England
Civil Parish: Mitcham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: 97 Fortescue Rd, Mitcham, Merton
Registration district: Croydon
Registration District Number: 39
Sub-registration district: Mitcham
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 367
Piece: 3446
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Richardson 26
Elizabeth Richardson 27
Elizabeth Richardson 10
Jack Richardson 6
Mary Richardson 4
Charlie Richardson 2
Frank Richardson 10 months

This is the birth for Jack, Elizabeth's son

Births Dec 1904 (>99%)

COOK Jack Richardson Wandsworth 1d 700

Going back to your OP.... “I did see an message on here from a Jennifer….. I have messaged her…”

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1131800

Have you sent her a message by clicking on her name, or just by leaving a post on her thread?

If the former, then you can look in your sent message box to see if there is an envelope icon next to the message. That would indicate that she hasn’t read the message as it will disappear when/if she does.

Be careful if you have taken info from an Ancestry tree, there are several on there and most appear to very inaccurate

On the military records it records Elizabeth as a Spinster at her marriage, the Richardson children as illegitimate, so it looks like she was not married to Mr Richardson. Witnesses at marriage to Walter were F ( could be J?)W Cook and S A Cook.

From Walter A Hummerston's military records

Name: Walter Alfred Hummerston
Birth Date: 27 Sep 1914
Birth Place: Camberwell
Relationship to Soldier: Child
Form Title: Descriptive Report Enlistment
Other Records:
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Walter Alfred Hummerston Self (Head)
Elizabeth Cook Spouse
Elizabeth CookChild ( adopted
Jack Richardson Child b 1904
Frank Richardson Child b 1910
James Richardson Child b1911
Mabel Hummerston Child
Walter Alfred Hummerston Child
May Hummerston

The above couple had a son named after his father

Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
HUMMERSTON Walter A Cook Camberwell 1d 1610

which is different to what you have on your tree Richardson, so could you please give us your grandfather's name so we can take a look at his birth reg etc to make sure you are looking at the right people :-)