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14 Sep 2014 09:23 |
ALL results for Arthur Parr travelling to Argentina
name First name Born Died Event Category Location View PARR ARTHUR 1905 — 1925 Passenger lists Buenos Aires, Argentina Transcription (purchased) Image PARR ARTHUR 1895 — 1928 Passenger lists Buenos Aires, Argentina Transcription Image PARR ARTHUR 1895 — 1939 Passenger lists Buenos Aires, Argentina Transcription Image PARR ARTHUR WILLIAM 1896 — 1945 Passenger lists Buenos Aires, Argentina Transcription Image PARR A W — — 1920 Passenger lists Buenos Aires, Argentina
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14 Sep 2014 09:15 |
The UK address for the 1935 sailing was Lake View, Bisley, Surrey
She travelled first class, and intended to make Argentina her permanent home.
Obviously well-to-do
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13 Sep 2014 00:25 |
Good to hear that you've managed to find what you wanted Keith.
Don't worry about the 'privilege' quip. I realised it was meant as a joke even without the smiley face ;-) GR do provide emoticons immediately underneath the 'Add your Reply' box. When they first appeared some people couldn't see them because they didn't have their 'compatibility' on, or it could have been off. It's quite a while ago!
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12 Sep 2014 22:15 |
To follow up a little ...
I've now found one of the relevant sailings (Highland Loch 1925) thanks to fmp. Turns out that my father's birth year was - for whatever reason - ten years out, 1905 instead of 1895, so no wonder my searches didn't find him.
Which suggests that I may need to make some very broad searches for Florence!
Also, I've just noticed that the "smile" label I attached to my question to DET about privileged access (which was meant as a joke) didn't make it through the GR filters, I forgot that GR filters out things in pointy brackets.
Keith
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11 Sep 2014 23:50 |
Thanks again!
And you've opened my eyes to another little quirk of GR, its relationship to findmypast, I hadn't realised that they were linked as you say. Duh!
DET: this seems odd, when I search GR for Florence Weston, 1894 +/- 5 key=argentina, I get zero results - yet you get two, do you have some sort of privileged access? Removing the keyword I get 10 results, NONE of which are for "my" Florence going to the Argentine.
Meanwhile fmp gives 29 results without a keyword and two with, matching your results on GR. My head hurts! Time for bed, said Zebedee ...
Keith
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11 Sep 2014 12:34 |
Det
It was from Ancestry
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11 Sep 2014 09:59 |
Original thread http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1336002
A number of the Florence Weston entries have been posted on there - Would it have been better to return to that thread? Possibly as no one wants to duplicate previous searches. Admittedly on this one, Keith hasn't asked on here for that - he requested someone to send him the complete passenger lists so that he can look himself.
If your local French library doesn't have access to Ancestry, then probably the 14 day trial is your best option.
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11 Sep 2014 09:54 |
Gins - was that from GR or Ancestry?
If I remember correctly, Keith believes that there was some sort of relationship between his Parr family and Florence Weston. We were trying to find passenger lists where they were both listed.
Presumably Keith wants the opportunity to pour through the passengers lists in case one of the names has been mistranscribed...hence his request.
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11 Sep 2014 09:44 |
Hi Keith
There is also this one
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name:Florence Weston
Gender:Female
Age:36
Birth Date:abt 1894
Departure Date:31 Jan 1930
Port of Departure:Southampton, England
Destination Port:Buenos Aires, Argentina
Ship Name:Arlanza
Shipping line:Royal Mail Steam Packet Co
Official Number:132021
Master:E Clarke Address: 112 Savernake Rd NW 3
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11 Sep 2014 09:43 |
Although I can access (for a few weeks more) the passenger lists on GR, the only ones shown using Argentina as a key word are. YOB 1894 +/- 5
FLORENCE WESTON Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States Country ARGENTINA Ship Name ARLANZA Birth Year 1894 Age 36 Ship Departure Port SOUTHAMPTON Destination Port BUENOS AIRES Departure Year 1930
FLORENCE WESTON Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States Country ARGENTINA Title MISS Ship Name HIGHLAND BRIGADE Birth Year 1891 Age 44 Ship Departure Port LONDON Destination Port BUENOS AIRES Departure year 1935
Removing the key word gives 40 results. In this instance, Ancestry is probably better. TBH, I prefer the lay out for the results as it's easier to choose the ones to view in their entirety. Having said that, you might need to have a full WW membership on there to view all the passenger list databases. No one site has everything - you'd probably find that if they can afford it GR members would subscribe to Ancestry and either Findmypast or GR for research. Findmypast is a sister site to GR which GR accesses when you search through this portal.
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KeithG
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11 Sep 2014 06:38 |
Many thanks, my apologies for making an unreasonable request.
Yes, DET that was my earlier thread, as the focus of this request was different I thought it best to start a new one, would it have been better to re-awaken the old thread?
I live in France so the local library option is probably not a goer .
I'll have a look at the Ancestry option. Is their collection of sailing records much better than the one on GR?
Keith
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11 Sep 2014 00:39 |
Ken ...... she was on the 1934 sailing
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Florence Weston
Name: Florence Weston Birth Date: abt 1894 Age: 40 Port of Departure: Buenos Aires, Argentina Arrival Date: 10 Apr 1934 Port of Arrival: Southampton, England Ports of Voyage: Buenos Aires [Montevideo] [Santos] [Rio de Janeiro] Ship Name: Arlanza Search Ship Database: View the 'Arlanza' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: Royal Mail Lines Ltd Official Number: 132021
from the image:-
proposed address in the UK:- 112 Severnake Road, Hampstead, E.3 no occupation Country of last permanent residence:- Argentina
But as DET says, it is an impossible task to ask anyone to send you all the passenger lists .................
I second her suggestions that you either visit your library or take out a 2 week free trial.
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11 Sep 2014 00:09 |
Hello Keith - do you have another thread somewhere about Florence as her name plus Argentina rings a bell! OK - it was a series of PMs in connection with your father Arthur William Parr as well as Florence and an Edith Chapman
Passenger lists usually consist of many pages making it rather unrealistic for someone to download and forward the whole file.
A couple of suggestions - Take advantage of Ancestry's free 14 day trial, but remember to ring them and cancel a few days before the trial ends. If you don't they'll charge your credit card. - Ask at your library to see if they have a Library sub to Ancestry. You can then book a computer and access it for free
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KeithG
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10 Sep 2014 22:22 |
Please could someone find copies of the ships' passenger lists for the following sailings:
31st January 1930 Southampton Buenos Aires Arlanza 10th April 1934 Buenos Aires Southampton Arlanza 31st August 1935 London Buenos Aires Highland Brigade 10th March 1938 La Plata London Highland Monarch
Most importantly I'd like copies of the page(s) showing Florence Weston (abt 1894) but ideally I'd like the complete passenger list so that I can check for other names which might be relevant (I have a single page for the 1934 sailing which places my father on the same boat ...).
It's possible that Florence was a resident of Argentina, in which case I'd expect to be able to find a sailing for her from the Argentine to the UK prior to 1930 but I have so far failed to do so. Similarly it might be that she returned to the Argentine after 1938, again I have failed to find such a sailing. Any help anyone can offer would be much appreciated.
Keith
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