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Marriages Mar 1877 (>99%)
BYRON Eliza Ann Barton 8c 693
LANE Silas Barton On Irwell 8c 693

I think the 1881 census posted by Jan is the right one for the Florence birth - all 3 of those children were registered in Worsley sub-district - so highly unlikely to be the one you are looking for.

Re:
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1878
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
LANE Florence Worsley Salford WOR/41/21

jan's hit is the matching GRO index record - here's how to tell:

Find jan's hit on FreeBMD:
Births Sep 1878 (>99%)
LANE Florence Barton 8c 624

then click on the page # link "624" tp see the other names with the 624 ref.

Here they are - I've appended the matching LancsBMD ref
Births Sep 1878 (>99%)
Burtonwood Mary Jane Barton 8c 624 WOR/41/22
Gillingham Thomas Henry Barton 8c 624 WOR/41/23
Gleave Amelia Florence Barton 8c 624 WOR/41/22
Hall Thomas Barton 8c 624 WOR/41/22
JONES Ruth Adeline M Barton 8c 624 WOR/41/21
LANE Florence Barton 8c 624 WOR/41/21
Loder George Barton 8c 624 WOR/41/22
TONGE Ellen Barton 8c 624 WOR/41/23
Urmson William Barton 8c 624 WOR/41/21
Wilkinson Alfred Barton 8c 624 WOR/41/22


The 3rd item in a local ref is either an entry # or a page #.
Entry #s are nearly always used for marrs - that way one can match up spouses, even pre-1912. A local register has 500 entries - 2 per page for marrs, and 5 per page for Bs & Ds.. One can see from the adjacency of the local refs that the local hit for Flo Lane fits right in here.

[It's not really necessary to check all the other 9 names to feel comfortable that you've matched the local & GRO refs]

NB LancsBMD indexes by year of birth, not registration, so it would be possible for a kid to be born at Xmas 1878, but not rego'ed until the new year and thus appear in the GRO index under the quarter ending in Mar 1879.

Thank you for your posts.

I see that brummiejan has a good possible for the one I found, ie.parents Silas and Eliza. :-(

My friend is researching the family in West Ham and remarked that she hadn't found a birth for Florence.
I believe these to be her parents.

Marriages Sep 1876
Lane Henry Shoreditch 1c 386
Mayer Mary Ann E Shoreditch 1c 386

Mary Ann had previously been married to Thomas MAYER

Marriages Sep 1871
BELCHAMBER Mary Ann E Stepney 1c 991
MAYER Thomas Stepney 1c 991

Mary Ann was b. 1849 in Deptford, the daughter of John BELCHAMBER and Mary Ann (COPPLE)

Gwyn

If looking for above, I assume it is daughter of Henry Lane and Mary Ann Belchamber you are seeking, as in several Ancestry trees??

Is this the 1881 you mention? Please tell us what you DO know about her.

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
61, Peter Street, West Ham, Essex, England
Print household transcription
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Lane Daughter Head Widow Female 31 1850 No Occupation Deptford, Kent, England
Image Transcription
Mary Lane Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Deptford, Kent, England
Image Transcription
Florence Lane Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Manchester, Lancashire, England


There is also Mary Bellchamber, 58 widow and John Bellchamber, 27 son living in the same house. Mary Lane 31 is her daughter. Mary Bellchamber is head of household.


A tree on ancestry has this as her parents.


Henry Lane
1847 – 1880

Mary Ann E Belchamber
1849 –

?

Name: Florence Lane
Registration Year: 1878
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Barton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 624

Gwyn, might this be her?

How did you come by her in the first place?


1881 England Census
Name: Florence Lane
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Silas Lane
Mother: Eliza Ann Lane
Gender: Female
Where born: Worsley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Worsley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 161 Manchester Rd

Registration district: Barton Upon Irwell
Sub-registration district: Worsley

Silas Lane 27
Eliza Ann Lane 26
Lillian Lane 3
Florence Lane 2
John Lane

I have found a birth on Lancs bmd for Florence LANE. in Worsley district. No mother's maiden name is given.
There does not seem to be a matching birth on Freebmd.

Where can I look for a baptism to find her possible parents, please?
She MIGHT be the Florence in West Ham in 1881?

Helping a friend with her tree.......

Gwyn