Genealogy Chat

Thanks Elizabeth. Jack was my Grandfather and Peter was my uncle. That's interesting we thought my grandmothers maiden name might have been Harrell. Not sure now if her maiden name was rafferty, Harrell or James now. Peter is my uncle though and the entry above says Harrell. We have struggled finding information with my grans side of the tree. Many thanks for the info so far. My dads side were all from Gaydon, generations of them they never moved. But my grans side? My dad remembers when he was young visiting my grans relatives in Wales. They had the old traditional caravans. I really appreciate your research. Thank you again. Louise

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The following is the only references that I hold to your given names-however these names were not researched further at the time(this would only happen when we could find no connection to the Romany`s
1/Jack Olds born Gaydon,Southam,Warwickshire 1/4/1900 he was christened at Frankton,Warwickshire 5/8/1901 parents were Arthur Ernest Olds and Emma Elizabeth-this Jack in 1901 resided at Gaydon with his family stating at Back of Church
2/also submitted at the same time was the name of Peter Olds b Warwickshire 1941 mothers maiden name being Harrell
3/Daniel G James ,and a Mary Rafferty possible marriage of
---all 3 questions were submitted by the same enquirer some 20 years ago(unfortunately due to data protection I was not allowed to register the enquirer`s name)
the marriage of Daniel was checked out and they married at Neath 3/4 of 1912
>>>>>>whilst I am almost sure that these people do not belong to your research -has I previously said non turned out to be Romanys-please do not hesitate to get back in touch
Liz

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MESSAGE FOR --CAROL
Sorry that your kin are not of Romani descent -but have done a little research upon following your line of enquiry-have managed to get you back another 2 generations-have pm`d you .
Liz :-

Hi Elizabeth,

I have been trying to find out information about my Grandmothers family who were Romanies. My Grandmother's maiden name was Winifred James. (born c1913) We think she was born in Wales.

Her mother was Mary Ellen James (maiden name Harrell). Mary had a sister Bridget Harrell. Mary married Daniel Griffin James. Other than this information we have come up against a brick wall. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Recently i have found a marriage certificate for my Grandfather Jack Olds to a Mary Pocock. We cannot find any information to say they divorced. My Grandfather Jack Olds and my Grandmother Winifred James then got together.

We cannot find any marriage certificate. They went on to have seven children and lived in Warwickshire. Mary James lived with my Grandmother Winifred and Grandfather Jack Olds as her husband died quite young. They lived in Warwickshire.

My dad and his sister were shocked to find their dad had married before and that their parents may not have been married. My Aunt seems to remember a secret in the family and that Winifred's family disowned her.

Regards and many thanks

Louise

Hello Elizabeth

I am trying to find out abour my Great Grandmother who I think was maybe a Romany Born 1858/died 1895 in the Horncastle area of Lincolnshire. She married Henry Alliss and had 6 children one of them my Grandmother Juliet.
Would appreciate any help.thank you
Carol

Hi again sorry wrong spelling meant Kingsclere :-( Jennifer

Hi Elizabeth
Thank you for info on Jeremiah Burrett given me a lot to work on. Could I ask did you hear of a Gypsy encampment at Kingsere Hants thanks Regards Jennifer

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Thomas Burrett ,occupation servant married Mary Robertson on the 18/1/1774 @ St James,Finchamstead
their son Jeremiah Burrett born Aborfield 1828,christened @Aborfield,Berkshire 29/2/1828 and died Reading 1902
Jeremiah married Louisa Webb nee Prout @ Kingsclere 1856-volume 2c page 321.
--Louisa`s first marriage was to Henry Webb in 1848 at Kingsclere volume 7 page 225
:-you should be able to locate them in the following census under the relevant places-look at
1841 @ Arborfield
1871 @ Whitley,St Giles ,Berkshire
1891 @ Arborfield
Liz

Jennifer
ok have some information for you but just want to check it over again has the info has been in storage for coming up to 40 years-check back on here tomorrow I will have posted it for you by then
take care

thank you Liz --- Absolom = Priscilla Ripley -- been trying to find his bp
think his parents are Samuel and Philidelphia Jones {Philly] found his brother Williams bp ok

thank you again Mavis

Hi sorry second marriage first marriage Henry Webb. :-(

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Hi
Are you sure that Jeremiah married Louisa Prout?? and not Louisa Webb??????

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Hello,hope this helps you a little,I do have some information on the children and on Priscilla`s family.
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Absolom Beeney married Priscilla Riley on the 14/10/1855,her father is listed has George Riley ,they married at Iden nr Rye in Sussex(England and Wales marriages pg 9 vol 2B
in 1871 the family are at no 3 Caravan 183 Golding St Tunbridge Wells
all the family are in the ecclesiastical district of Trinity Church

Hi Elizabeth
You seem to be much in demand but when you do have time I would be very much appreciate help with finding if my 3xgt grandfather's family were connected to gypsy people.

Jeremiah Burrett born Arborfield 1828 died Reading 1902 married to Louisa Prout
Father Thomas Burrett Mother Mary ? (Essex)

If I could ask was there a gypsy encampment in Kingsclere Hampshire? Look forward to hearing from you. Many thanks Jennifer

thanks Brummie
-hope that you are ok?

n for Jennifer

Bump up Elizabeth

Elizabeth do you have any info on a Absolom Beeney/Beney/Beaney born
about 1836 says born Groombridge but that has no church.

on his Marriage father stated as Samuel

Mavis

bump up

thank you for a little more info.

the Louisa Lee bp Newnham -- on the index a James and Harriet Lee ??

to add to the mix I have a birth cert of a Louisa Lee

29th November 1878 Homeshall ? Doddington - Faversham
father James Lee mother Harriet Lee - nee Webb - father occ. skewer and peg maker - James Lee X father informant of Fairlight Sussex but I don't think this is
"my" Louisa

Would Louisa then have used Smith as a surname if her parents not married ?
if so would they have been bp as Smith ?

Could Jeremiah/Jem have become James ? -- not found on any other census.

I have the book on Damon and Thomas Lee 1750-1900 which has Deogilus
and Jem under Thomas's family

thank you for your help so far

Mavis