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DOROTHY...Marriage registration for Faith Street to Harry Shrimpton @ West Ham,Essex,July quarter 1888,volume 4A page 82.....

DOROTHY...Marriage registration for Faith Street to Harry Shrimpton @ West Ham,Essex,July quarter 1888,volume 4A page 82.....

DOROTHY__found them..Faith Street's registration,birth 1872 @ Loughton ,Essex,in 1881 @ Theydon Bois,Essex,father Thomas Street,b, Loughton,1842,mother Hope b Barking Essex 1841
Siblings George b Chigwell ,Essex ,aged 15
Walter b Chigwell,Essex,aged 15
James b Loughton,Essex b1871
Leonard b Loughton,Essex ,aged 6
Gently b Loughton,Essex(female),aged 5
Thomas b Theydon Bois,Essex.aged 2
....living Bell Common......
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I am looking for information on Faith Street b c 1872, possibly at Bell Common Loughton. Mother called Hope b Hainault Forest c 1845, Father Thomas bc 1844. Faith was one of 11, married Harry Shrimpton, lived Cherry Island, Canning town gypsy encampment when first married. Any information would be great. I do not know names of Faiths siblings of any details about her parents..

Regards
Dorothy

Thank you to Maryland and to Chris for helping Jennifer
Lizx

(below for more from Jennifer. Reference)

Chris :)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1357868

Thank you malyon......will do some more research.

Henry Arthur Lee
England Births and Christenings
Name Henry Arthur Lee
Gender Male
Christening Date 1856
Christening Place ETON,BUCKINGHAM,ENGLAND
Mother's Name Elizabeth Lee

This morning I stumbled on a link for Romany and Travellers and out of curiosity went looking for names. Lo and behold they had "Lee"!! I looked a bit more and also found the surname "Rose" and then a Christian name of Eunice, surname Lee, born to a Henry back in the 1800's. How on earth do I search for connections.
The background to all of this is that my Great Grandfather went off from his wife and 5 sons about 1896, never to be found again. I gave up on him and went looking for what records I could find from his marriage cert. No where can I find a birth for him, no records for his parents either. His name was Henry Arthur Lee who said he was born in Newcastle NSW Australia in 1856. There are no records in Australia for either him or his parents that I and others can find. He came to NZ and married in 1882 and had 5 sons and then disappeared. He said his parents were a Henry Arthur Lee and Elizabeth Rose. Rose is the surname.
The reason I am curious about a Romany connection is that my grandfather named one of his daughters Eunice, she was my mother's sister.
Now if you are still reading this I thank you and hope you can point me in the direction of where to start my searching to see if there is any connection.

Hi Elizabeth , I have the birth cert for Louisa Lee it ties in with the birthday date
for Louisa Rumsey on the 1939 index

On the index she has her Dob as 29th Nov 1879 the birth cert I have is as follows

29th Nov 1878 Homershall ?? Doddington Kent -- Louisa - parents - James Lee
and Harriet Lee -maiden name Webb- James a Skewer and Peg maker signed with X of Fairlight Sussex

Hope you may be able to help on either Lee - Webb-- Smith thank you

Mavis :-) :-)

Hi Chris
So sorry that it has taken so long for me to reply-
the only Marsh /Fletcher that I have in the database
is a different christian name for ? Fletcher
here is what I have
Edith Anne Marsh baptised 28/10/1888 @ St Mary ,Watford,parents listed has Walter Thomas Marsh and Louisa
Edith Anne Marsh married 5/8/1907 aged 18 @ St Saviours,Birmingham ===but she is listed has marrying ISAIH FLETCHER
I have checked this marriage with the England and Wales Marriages and the details are correct==volume 6d page 209
in 1911
Isaih and Edith and daughter Edith Anne are resident at Wheeler Street ,Birmingham,and although this census says that Edith Anne was born Birmingham (there is no proof of birth for Birmingham)
in the 1891
it lists Isaih with siblings and parents Alexander and Sarah Eliza :-)

Hello Elizabeth you helped me before but are you able to help me again
on the parents of Harriet Smith born Canterbury about 1859

have not been able to find any family apart from the 1881 when she is
with Jem/James Lee and daughter Louisa -- Louisa appears as a Rumsey 1911

It is thought that there may be a connection to Emmetts/Emett of Kent
some where

thank you Mavis :-) :-)

Hi Jackie
Have sent you a pm with regards to your Verney connection :-)

Hi Karen have sent you a pm with regards to your Stanley connection :-)

Hello Elizabeth i wondered if you could help me please i'm trying to find out the siblings of Rosetta Smith born 1808 Wymondham parents William Smith and Charlotte Allen and any info about her husband Francis Brown born 1804 Laxton notts . Many thanks Angela

Hi Elizabeth
I have an Edith Annie Marsh age 18 marrying Gerge Fletcher on 5 Aug 1907 at St Saviour, Birmingham. Her father WalterThomas Marsh was described as a traveller. Would you have any information on this family in your archives? Many thanks in advance. Christine

Hi Elizabeth

I hope you can help. I am trying to trace a romany gypsy family who were based in Hackney and the East end during the 1800s

My great great grandad was a man called Zachariah king born in 1975? Does in 1936
He was married to Alice weeks who married my great grandfather Henry Gillet. Their daughter Dora in my grandmother

I believe that Zachariah has 4 siblings. Annie, John. Mary Ann and George.

His father was James g king and his mother was Eliza.

I would love if you have information regarding this side of the family or are able to point me in the right direction as I am drawing a blank

Thank you

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3


Thank you so much for your help Liz - very useful indeed. I see that the Cork(e)/Cooley families were mentioned in the history of Corkes Meadow. I suppose part of me wonders if it was named after any of my lot but I guess I may never know.

I really appreciate your time. Thanks again. <3 :-D

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JUST A LITTLE INFO ON
The St Mary Cray area of Kent
Corkes Meadow also known has Corkes Pit was a wintering stopping ground (atchin tan) and at any one time up to 300 people could be resident there-Corkes Meadow/pit is no longer there but it was Sevenoaks way near to the gas works.
many old Romany family names could be found living there such has
Arnold-Baker-Ball-Brazil-Buckley-Chapman-Clark-Cork(e)-Cooley-Driscol(l)-Elliot-Friend-french-Hughes-Jackson-Jones-Lee-Love-Mead-Marley-Parris-Price-Ripley-Roberts-Rutherford-Saunder-Scamp-Smith-Stanley
Liz

:-D :-D for Cynthia
children of
Richard Cork b 1812 died 1891in 3rd quarter@Sevenoaks,Kent vol 2A pg32 & wife Jane nee Cooley
1/Sarah Jane Cooley(Cork) born 1837,her baptism is recorded in the Thames and Medway Baptism records for the county of Kent.
Sarah married 1858 to Thomas Mills @ Maidstone,Kent-ref 2A 690
she is not in the 1861,so it may be safe to assume that she died between 1858-1861 (has Thomas is recorded in the later census but has remarried.)
2/Jane Cork born 1842 in 4th quarter in the district of Malling,Kent-ref volume V p 343,Jane married George Curtis in 1865 in district of Canterbury ref-vol 2A pg 1202
3/James Cork-death recorded has 1936 ,1st quarter,in the district of Kent -ref vol 2A pg 1220
4/Stephen Cork -b1851,1st quarter of 1878 @ Bromley he married Emily Emery-ref 2A pg 433 Emily was born St Mary Cray in 1848
The census has them with son William at St Paul Cray and in 1901/11 they are at 69 Hearns Rd St Paul Cray
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I only have Mary Ann(Polly) birth -Mary Ann Cork born 3rd quarter 1861 in district of Bromley -ref 2A pg 244
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Eliza Cork b 1853,it looks like she is with her relatives in the 1861 @55 London Rd ,Hambledown Kent
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Alice Cork born 1856, baptism is recorded has 12/10/1856 @Seal ,Kent,she died Malling 1876
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Daniel Cork b 1845 ,died aged 88yrs in district of Sheppey,Kent-ref vol 2A pg 1297,married Olive Martin in 1870 @ Maidstone Kent -ref vol 2a pg 854,Olive died 3rd quarter 1887 aged 40 district of Maidstone,Kent
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1871 census= Richard is with son Stephen and his family @74 Tower Hill ,Offham,Mallingham,Kent -ref RG10 folio12 pg 16
--also on the same page is Daniel and wife Olive at number 75
1891census= Richard b 1812 is @Victory Yard,Sunridge,Kent,still with Stephen -ref RG12 folio47 pg 2
1911census=Stephen Cork and wife Emily and family are at Hearns Rd,St Paul Cray ,have been married 33yr
--with regards to the surname Parris the 1891 has a Thomas Parris aged 40 b Northam wife Mary aged 30 and son Thomas Henry Parris aged 7 b St Pauls Cray
(hope that this helps you to get a little further)
Liz