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Thank you so much for finding my g/g/grandmother Sarah. I had searched for some time for her never knowing if she had died in childbirth, married or even where she came from. I could not find her or Joseph in the 1871 census so it became a mystery to me.
Now I know she had married Joseph's father and amazing that Joseph carried the Hazelgrave name in the census records so no wonder I couldn't find Joseph White.

Mary has Welbury White, born 1887 Leeds & Isabella Cross (1865) on her GR tree - so it looks like Astra/Kath have found the correct family.

Sarah's mother?

Frances Wrigley
Birth Date:30 Apr 1806
Event Date:Sep 1806
Event Type:Baptism
Parish:Leeds, St Peter
Father's Name:Joseph Wrigley

There are a couple of christenings for Joseph White, so not sure which (if either) is correct. 1807, father joseph or 1808 father John

Sarah's christening:


Sarah White
Parish:Leeds, St Peter
Baptism Date:7 Mar 1848
Father's Name:Joseph White
Mother's name:Frances White

christened same day were Elizabeth & George, abode Cottage street.

Earlier christenings William b 23/5/25, Ann b 13/2/28 - both christened 3/3/28. Then Joseph b 3/6/30, Jane 21/9/33 and James (no dob) ch 4/12/36.

All with same parents - Joseph was a flax dresser.

If the family posted in 1851/61 are correct, this could be her parents marriage - Thomas - (sorry,this should read Joseph!) is a flax dresser:


Joseph White
Marriage or Bann Date:4 Dec 1824
Parish:Leeds, St Peter
Spouse's Name:Frances Wrigley

This christening is a bit strange, looks like the vicar was saving writing - I'm pretty sure it says "sons of"

Joseph Christopher Welbury Hezelgrave
Parish:Leeds, All Saints
Baptism Date:18 Apr 1867
Father's Name:Thomas Hezelgrave (Miner)
Mother's name:Sarah Hezelgrave

Christopher (1864) and Wellbury (1867) were not registered with any other names, so think they christened all 3 on same day - inclucluding Joseph, but the vicar was being lazy!

Is this her in the 1861 census:-

First Name SARAH
Last Name WHITE
Relationship DAUGHTER
Condition UNMARRIED
Gender Female
Age 18
Year Of Birth 1843
Occupation EMPLOYED IN A FLAX MILL
Birth Town LEEDS
Birth County YORKSHIRE
Birth Place -
House Name -
Street COTTAGE STREET
Parish LEEDS
Town LEEDS
City LEEDS
Registration District LEEDS
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West riding)
Country ENGLAND
Archive Reference RG09
Piece Number 3375
Folio 33
Page 23
Record set 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Record collection Census
Collections from Great Britain

Other Household Members

First Name Last Name Relationship Age Year Of Birth Birth Town
JOSEPH WHITE HEAD 54 1807 LEEDS Image Transcription
FRANCES WHITE WIFE 55 1806 HUNSLET Image Transcription
GEORGE WHITE SON 13 1848 LEEDS Image Transcription

Kath. x

This is a possible. Her father joseph is a Flax Dresser which looking at the marriage cert again is a match.

Name: Sarah White
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph White
Mother's name: Frances White
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Household schedule number: 101
Piece: 2319
Folio: 679
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph White 43
Frances White 43
Elizabeth White 12
Sarah White 8
George White 4

Sarah gives her birthplace as Leeds in 1844. On her marriage to Thomas her father is named as Joseph White. I can't make out his occupation. >>>>Dresser?
His father is Christopher.

This is the family in 1881

Name: Joseph Hezelgrave
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Thomas Hezelgrave
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 15 Bath Street
Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4514
Folio: 25
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hezelgrave 40
Sarah Hezelgrave 38
Joseph Hezelgrave 18
Christopher Hezelgrave 16
Welbury Hezelgrave 14
Frederick Hezelgrave 12
Mary Hezelgrave 9
Thomas Hezelgrave 6
Alfred Hezelgrave 4
George Hezelgrave 2
Mark Hezelgrave

and with Isabella in 1891. Note that there is a son called Wellbury in both records!

Name: Joseph White
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella White
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3686
Folio: 80
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph White 29
Isabella White 28
Wellbury White 4
Mary A White 8

Hi Mary and welcome to the community boards.

This may be his birth registration. As it was in his mother's maiden name it is very unlikely that it will name his father. But you never know.

Births Jun 1862 (>99%)
WHITE Joseph Leeds 9b 348

If he is the Joseph White who married Isabella Cross in 1883 his father is named as Thomas Hazlegrave? on his marriage certificate but is then crossed out and Born out of Wedlock added.

However there is a marriage in 1863 but whether Thomas is his real father or not we may never know.

Marriages Sep 1863 (>99%)
BACON Elizabeth Leeds 9b 370
>>>Hesselgrave Thomas Leeds 9b 370
Hill John Leeds 9b 370
>>>>WHITE Sarah Leeds 9b 370

Have you got them on the 1871 census, and, if so, could you post it on here, please?

Thank-you

I am searching for a Sarah White who lived in Leeds about 1862. My great grandfather Joseph White was born in Leeds in 1862 born illegitimate and his mother was Sarah White. On Joseph's marriage certificate it gave the name of his father but was illegible. I haven't been able to find any info on Sarah.
Any help would be appreciated
Mary