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1861 (as on FMP)
COLWILL, Eliza Head Married F 30 1831 Engineers Wife
Southwark, Surrey
COLWILL, George Son M 4 1857 Scholar
Newington, Surrey
COLWILL, Eliza Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar
Newington, Surrey
COLWILL, Alfred Son M 8 1853 Scholar
Newington, Surrey
COLWILL, James Son M 0 (3M) 1861
Lambeth, Surrey
Piece: 331
Folio: 127
Page: 24
Registration District: St George Southwark
Civil Parish: St George the Martyr
Municipal Borough: Southwark
Address: 44, Union Street, St George The Martyr, Southwark
County: London, Surrey

Chris :)

Although Eliza is down as married (Engineers wife) wouldnt be surprised if her husband had done a runner at some point....maybe that's why he was not wanted?

could be the father leaving the country


Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
about Alfred Colvill
Name:
Alfred Colvill
Estimated birth year:
abt 1822
Age:
39
Arrival Date:
6 May 1861
Arrival Port:
Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port:
London
Ship:
Orwell
Nationality:
English

Don't know how long it took to get to Oz back then but I would imagine he left before the census was taken on the 7th April

His birth


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Alfred Benjamin Colvill
Name:
Alfred Benjamin Colvill
Gender:
Male
Birth Date:
11 Dec 1821
Baptism Date:
22 Sep 1822
Baptism Place:
Saint Saviour,Southwark,Surrey,England
Father:
George Colvill
Mother:
Mary Ann
FHL Film Number:
307710, 307711, 307712

Eliza Star's mother's second marriage? :-


Name: HAWTIN, George
Registration district: Lambeth
County: London
Year of registration: 1839
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 4
Page no: 258

MarriageFinder: George Hawtin married one of the following people:

NICHOLS, Hannah
STAR, Jane<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
JOHNSON, Eliza
NEWMAN, Sarah
WITHAM, John
BRYAN, John Thomas
LEMON, Benjamin

Kath. x

This could possibly be his mother in the 1851 census with her mother and step-father:-

1851 census transcription details for: 18, North Street, Saint Mary Newington, Lambeth

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1567
Folio: 890
Page: 51
Reg. District: Newington
Sub District: Saint Peter Walworth
Parish: Saint Mary Newington
Enum. District: 30
Ecclesiastical District: Saint Peter Walworth
City/Municipal Borough: Lambeth

Address: 18, North Street, Saint Mary Newington, Lambeth
County: Surrey

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

HAWTIN, George Head Married M 47 1804 Smith And Farrier
Newington, Surrey
HAWTIN, Jane Wife Married F 40 1811 Brush Maker
Newington, Surrey
STAR, Eliza Daughter In Law Unmarried F 20 1831 Brush Maker
Newington, Surrey<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
STAR, William Son In Law Unmarried M 19 1832 Hawker
Newington, Surrey
HAWTIN, Margaret Daughter F 7 1844
Newington, Surrey
HAWTIN, Jane Daughter F 2 1849
Newington, Surrey
GILES, Henry Workman M 22 1829 Workman A Smith
Newington, Surrey
STADMAN, Ann Servant F 14 1837
Newington, Surrey

Kath. x

If the above are his parents then this looks like his father in the 1851 census:-

1851 census transcription details for: 5, Nelsons Place, Saint Mary Newington, Lambeth

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1567
Folio: 870
Page: 10
Reg. District: Newington
Sub District: Saint Peter Walworth
Parish: Saint Mary Newington
Enum. District: 30
Ecclesiastical District: Saint Peter Walworth
City/Municipal Borough: Lambeth

Address: 5, Nelsons Place, Saint Mary Newington, Lambeth
County: Surrey

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

COLVILL, George Head Married M 76 1775 Carpenter
Bermondsey, Surrey
COLVILL, Mary Ann Wife Married F 65 1786
Thornborough, Gloucestershire
COLVILL, William Thos Son Unmarried M 41 1810 Painter
Lewisham, Kent
COLVILL, Alfred B Son Unmarried M 29 1822 Tin Plate Worker
Newington, Surrey<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Kath. x

I couldn't see it on FMP either..

If him, which looks like it is.... his parents marriage


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Eliza Star
Name:
Eliza Star
Spouse Name:
Alfred Benjamin Colvill
Record Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
30 Mar 1852
Parish:
Camberwell St Giles
Borough:
Southwark
Father Name:
Benjamin Star
Spouse Father:
George Colvill
Register Type:
Parish Register

That is so sad!!

If "Not Wanted" had only been on one record I would have thought it had been mistranscribed but as it's on the birth and death record I suppose it must be correct.

I'd be interested to know who his mother was when you get the birth certificate.

EDIT - I couldn't find him in the 1861 census on Findmypast.

Kath. x

??


1861 England Census
about James Colvill
Name:
James Colvill
Age:
3/12
Estimated birth year:
1861

Relation:
Son
Mother's name:
Eliza Colvill
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish:
Southwark St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish:
St George the Martyr
County/Island:
Surrey
Country:
England
Registration district:
St George Southwark

Sub-registration district:
Borough Road

Eliza Colvill 30
George Colvill 4
Eliza Colvill 6
Alfred Colvill 8
James Colvill 3/12
Samuel Davy 62

DameShelly
I had a feeling you would. I was very tempted myself. I feel so sorry for the little love, even told hubby about him today. God bless him.

Ok this child was posted on another thread
but nothink to do with the thread

so out of interest and because im soft i have sent off for the birth and death cert
and will see if i can build a little tree for the poor mite

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1331009

Births Mar 1861 (>99%)
COLVILL Not Wanted James Lambeth 1d 312
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Deaths Jun 1861 (>99%)
Colvill Not Wanted James St George S 1d 111