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thank you, I think I have worked out how quick it all goes wrong.

I need to start a tree again for each Grand parent I think and check as you say
thanks

Joanne - if the Ancestry information that you refer to for Samuel Richardson born 1783 comes from member's trees on Ancestry - BEWARE!!

Never ever trust any information on anyone else's tree unless it is well documented, has copies of source documents, etc. Too many people accept the hints offered by Ancestry and they are very unreliable, factor in that people copy duff info from tree to tree. There ARE some good ones but take nothing at face value without doing your own research to verify.

I cannot find out where I got that, I found it yesterday. I will look back and see what I did?

How confusing all these people with the same names!

Hi Kath
once again thanks
the Lois born in 1814 maiden name was Guest.

Jo

Sorry, I can't help with your query but just wanted to ask if this is the Lois you mentioned (in the 1851 census):-

1851 census transcription details for: Olives, Heathfield

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1638
Folio: 394
Page: 9
Reg. District: Hailsham
Sub District: Hellingly
Parish: Heathfield
Enum. District: 5A
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Olives, Heathfield
County: Sussex

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

RICHARDSON, James Head Married M 40 1811 Farmer
Mayfield, Sussex
RICHARDSON, Lois Wife Married F 37 1814
Sandhurst, Kent
RICHARDSON, John Son Unmarried M 16 1835
Mayfield, Sussex
RICHARDSON, Caroline Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837
Pembury, Kent
RICHARDSON, Charlotte Daughter F 11 1840
Mayfield, Sussex
RICHARDSON, James Son M 5 1846 8.1
Mayfield, Sussex
RICHARDSON, Lois Daughter F 3 1848
Heathfield, Sussex
RICHARDSON, Isaac Son M 1 1850
Heathfield, Sussex
PORTER, Henry Servant Unmarried M 23 1828 Farm Labourer
Heathfield, Sussex

It's just that if this is the correct Lois then Richardson is her married name, not her maiden name (unless she married someone with the same surname, like a cousin etc.)

Kath. x

Thank you Roy that makes sense.

I have a new query I have found a Samuel Richardson born 1783 Married to Martha Crowhurst.

I have my family tree up to their daughter Lois born 1814

Ancestry co.uk are showing two Samuel Richardsons born that date, both born in Mayfield, but one is in Kentucky and one is Mayfield Sussex. Can anyone suggest what I look at to find which one is correct?

I really appreciate all the help

Birth years on census's are approximate and can often be a couple of years out, In fact abt 50% could be out by 1 year due to when their actual birth date is and the date the census was taken because the question asked was not when were you born, But the question was how old are you,

Roy

Hi
there are a few discrepancies with years of birth on the census and the birth certs. I have but the names all seem to match. Is that usual?

For instance in the 1891 census it says William McConnell is born 1886 but the DOB on cert. is 1885?

On the Irish side I have registered with rootsireland.ie Does anyone know this site before I pay money?

thanks

Thank you so much all. That is loads for me to be going on with. x

This looks like James and Ada's marriage:


Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)

KERBY Ada Elizabeth Farnham 2a 131 Scan available - click to view
MCCONNELL James Farnham 2a 131

Census shows a Ada E Kerby born same time and place as Ada in the 1891.

The marriage cert will show James' s father and whether he was married before.

Sorry Joanne,

I don't know anything about Irish records so I can't help with that. I think there are some Irish census records online. You could Google to see if you can find anything.

Kath. x

William with his widowed mother in the 1861 census:-

1861 census transcription details for: High Street, St Giles, Stony Stratford

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 929
Folio: 21
Page: 6
Reg. District: Potterspury
Sub District: 1 Potterspury
Parish: St Giles
Enum. District: 15
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: High Street, St Giles, Stony Stratford
County: Northamptonshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

RICHARDSON, Phebe Head Widow F 34 1827 Lace Maker
Calverton, Buckinghamshire
RICHARDSON, William Son M 3 1858
Stony Stratford, Buckinghamshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
RICHARDSON, Mary Daughter F 0 (7M) 1861
Stony Stratford, Buckinghamshire

Kath. x

One last question at the moment, as I should be doing my own research, though it is great to be helped so much.

Where do you suggest the best place to look in Ireland for James McConnell, Irish records. My uncle did some research before he died. But in the info you have sent the wife is different and I am more inclined to go with your records as my uncle did not look too hard. I also think his info may be wrong as I cannot find the place he says William came from (Agatammry in the Doocesse of Cloghan, Monaghan. I think it may be spelt wrong?

Any how a tip where to look in Irish books would help.
thanks so much.

This looks like William King Richardson's parent's marriage:-


Name: RICHARDSON, James
Registration district: Potterspury
County: Northamptonshire
Year of registration: 1846
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 15
Page no: 531

Name: KING, Phoebe
Registration district: Potterspury
County: Northamptonshire
Year of registration: 1846
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 15
Page no: 531

Kath. x

whow!
Thanks so much, I will get stuck into looking further.

This is the 1901 census for Frederick Charles:-

1901 census transcription details for: Logan Street, Great Bowden, Market Harborough

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2952
Folio: 82
Page: 24
Reg. District: Market Harborough
Sub District: Market Harborough
Parish: Great Bowden
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: Market Harborough
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Logan Street, Great Bowden, Market Harborough
County: Leicestershire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

RICHARDSON, William King Head Married M 43 1858 Wharfe Labourer
Stoney Stratford, Buckinghamshire
RICHARDSON, Annie Marie Wife Married F 41 1860
Green Norton, Northamptonshire
RICHARDSON, Arthur Bertie Son Single M 16 1885 Printer
Little Bowden, Northamptonshire
RICHARDSON, Amy Jane Daughter Single F 13 1888 Hosiery Factory Hand
Little Bowden, Northamptonshire
RICHARDSON, Ernest Robert Son Single M 10 1891
Little Bowden, Northamptonshire
RICHARDSON, William John Son Single M 7 1894
Little Bowden, Northamptonshire
RICHARDSON, Frederick Chas Son Single M 4 1897
Mkt Harboro, Leicestershire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
RICHARDSON, Harriott May Daughter Single F 1 1900
Mkt Harboro, Leicestershire

Kath. x

This is the reference for Frederick Charles Richardson's birth certificate (although you don't really need it if it's just the parent's names you are looking for as Reggie has posted the census information):-

Name: RICHARDSON, Frederick Charles
Registration district: Market Harborough
County: Leicestershire
Year of registration: 1896
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 7A
Page no: 18

Kath. x

This looks like William's father's death:-

Name: MCCONNELL, James
Registration district: St. Faiths
County: Norfolk
Year of registration: 1899
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 55
Volume no: 4B
Page no: 66

Kath. x

This looks like William's mother in the 1901 census. She is now a widow:-

1901 census transcription details for: 8, King Street Winkles Row, Norwich

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 1841
Folio: 51
Page: 29
Reg. District: Norwich
Sub District: East Wymer
Parish: Norwich
Enum. District: 48
Ecclesiastical District: St Peter South Gate
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 8, King Street Winkles Row, Norwich
County: Norfolk

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

MCCONNELL, Ada E Head Widow F 41 1860 Charwoman
Kings Sutton, Northamptonshire
MCCONNELL, Margaret A Daughter Single F 16 1885 Paper Box Maker
Norwich, Norfolk
MCCONNELL, Frank Son M 3 1898
Norwich, Norfolk

Kath. x

I think this is William in the 1891 census:-

1891 census transcription details for: 12, Compass Street, Norwich

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 1524
Folio: 57
Page: 8
Reg. District: Norwich
Sub District: Conisford
Parish: Norwich
Enum. District: 13
Ecclesiastical District: St Etheldred
City/Municipal Borough: Norwich

Address: 12, Compass Street, Norwich
County: Norfolk

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

MCCONNELL, James Head Married M 47 1844 Musician Valet
Ireland
MCCONNELL, Ada Wife Married F 31 1860
Kings Sutton, Northamptonshire
MCCONNELL, Margaret Daughter Single F 6 1885
Norwich, Norfolk
MCCONNELL, William Son Single M 5 1886
Norwich, Norfolk<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
MCCONNELL, Martha Daughter Single F 4 1887
Norwich, Norfolk
MCCONNELL, Hugh Son Single M 2 1889
Norwich, Norfolk

Kath. x