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Why might I not be able to find a death?

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Aug 2013 22:49

1911 census

Person: TOOTELL, Elizabeth Address: 26 Barton Road Farnworth

TOOTELL, Rachel Head Widow F 53 1858 Bolton Lancs VIEW
TOOTELL, Sarah Alice Daughter Single F 29 1882 Toffee Manufacturer Bolton Lancs VIEW
TOOTELL, James Son Single M 24 1887 Coal Miner Hewer Farnworth Lancs VIEW
TOOTELL, Lily Daughter Single F 21 1890 Cotton Mule Reeler Farnworth Lancs VIEW
TOOTELL, John Son Single M 18 1893 Maker Up Manf Goods Farnworth Lancs VIEW
TOOTELL, Betsy Daughter Single F 16 1895 Cotton Mule Reeler Farnworth Lancs VIEW
TOOTELL, Elizabeth Daughter F 12 1899 Toffee Manf Part Time Fanrworth Lancs

patchem

patchem Report 22 Aug 2013 22:37

Is this Reuben - has he been married before?

Baptism: 14 Jun 1875 Chowbent Chapel, Atherton, Lancashire, England
Reuben Cleworth - [Child] of Israel Cleworth & Hannah
Born: 28 May 1875
Abode: Atherton
Notes: Registered 20 Jun 1875
Register: Baptisms 1837-1890, Page 174
Source: The Register of Births & Christenings belonging to the Protestant Dissenting Chapel Chowbent

Burial: 18 May 1947 Christ Church, Walmsley, Lancashire, England
Reuben Cleworth -
Age: 71 yrs
Abode: 5 Old Globe Egerton
Grave: No. 166 Ex. 'A'
Buried by: C. R. Shawcross Asst. Curate
Register: Burials 1943 - 1955, Page 35, Entry 279
Source: Register at Manchester Library

patchem

patchem Report 22 Aug 2013 22:21

Sheryl,
Have you got her Father's name from the wedding certificate?

Added;
Is this her birth, as no middle initial?
Elizabeth Tootill
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1898
Registration District: Bolton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 358

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Aug 2013 22:19

True patcham.
We are both Londoners but moved to Kent in the 1960,s so people dont stay in the same areas these days

patchem

patchem Report 22 Aug 2013 22:13

I was just about to add that one, Shirley.
There is no record for her original surname for second marriage, but that is often missing.
Presumably nothing stopping her moving to Wolverhampton.
Just wondering, still, what the family knows of her.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Aug 2013 22:09

Could she have remarried?


Name: Elizabeth A Cleworth
Spouse Surname: Mccarthy
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1955
Registration District: Bolton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 1243
Find Spouse: Edward McCarthy


Name: Elizabeth A McCarthy
Birth Date: abt 1898
Date of Registration: Mar 1961
Age at Death: 63
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 1324

patchem

patchem Report 22 Aug 2013 21:57

Welcome to the boards, Sheryl.

Have you asked your parents or grandparents when they think she died, or any further information about her?

Have you got Reuben's death certificate to know whether she was still alive then?

Thanks

Added:
Middle initial for ref;
Elizabeth A Tootill
Spouse Surname: Cleworth
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1916
Registration District: Bolton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 581

Sheryl

Sheryl Report 22 Aug 2013 21:47

:-S

My great grandmother Elizabeth Cleworth nee Tootill does not seem to have a death record in either surname, nor am I able to find a divorce record or second marriage to provide an alternative surname. I have tried spelling variants also. I have searched GR and also Lancashire BMD but only up until 1975.

Why might this be?!

Elizabeth Tootill born Q3 1898 in Bolton, Lancashire, married Reuben Cleworth Q2 1916 in Bolton, Lancashire. Reuben died Q2 1947 in Horwich, Bolton. They had at least 3 children.

Cannot find a census record for Elizabeth Tootill in variant spellings either.

I'm lost.