Genealogy Chat

Just for reference, here's an online Ottawa directory:
http://archive.org/details/ottawadirec192300midiuoft

Thank you mgnv ,

I have been tearing my hair out trying to find Verdun and LaSalle Road , I will take a look now,

jean

Using http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/electoral-atlas/index-e.html
we see Verdun was in Jacques Cartier (which covers most of the SW part of the Ile de Montreal). However, it's not there in 1921, but the map shows it was adjacent to Ste Anne, Montreal which straddled the NW end of the Lachine Canal, and that's its dstrict in 1921.

Lasalle runs the whole length of Verdun, so it's liable to be in most Verdun subdistricts.

Sorry to be a pain but I just cannot find which sub district La Salle Road , Verdun, Quebec is.

I have googled , linked on links suggested here but still no luck .
Could someone help me please ,

Thank you
jean

MISTY - Although I worked in Vancouver for quite a few years, I've never heard of Cedar Cottage.
(The area's now called Little Italy as a result of immigration immediately post-WW2.)

Anyways, I looked up a page from the subdistrict you cited, viz:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001942244.pdf
There are several Cedar Cottage addy's there, but when I look more closely, they all say Cedar Cottage PO.

So I looked it up here:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/post-offices/001001-100.01-e.php
and got:
Name of Office: Vancouver-Cedar Cottage
Establishment Re-openings Closings
1896-01-01 - -

Former Office Information:
Former Name Date of Change
Cedar Cottage 1914-07-31
Epworth 1909-03-01

Location - 3354 Commercial Drive
Location - 3354 Findlay St.
Location - 3358 Findlay St. - 1952-09-18
Location - 3528 Commercial Drive
Status - Sub office - 1914-07-31
Store


Go to: https://maps.google.com/ and look up: Findlay Street, Vancouver, BC, Canada

For Vancouver N-S streets, subtract 1600 from the street #, divide by 100, and discard fractions to get the Avenue to N, so 3358 is between 17th Ave & 18th Ave - pan google map one click left, and you'll see 17th.

Now everyone's giving their PO as their addy - maybe this area's only starting to get developed by 1911. Anyways, it's not very helpful for 1921 - what we really need is a 1921 city directory:
http://www.vpl.ca/bccd/index.php

mgnv

The Lovell Montreal Directory is proving to be a great site.

I've been able to confirm a 1911 Census that I had found where the spelling of the name was incorrect but appeared to be the family I was looking for. I found the correct name/address on the directory which proves I have the right census.

Thanks mgnv for posting this.

Here's a link to a 1911 Montreal Census District Map which I have found helpful.

Click on the link below the page heading for the map.

http://jgs-montreal.org/montreal-map.html

The other links on this page do not work – all out of date. Probably were links to the page at Collections Canada that mgnv has posted.

Incidentally, if you're a member of CAA (or AAA for those benighted souls in NY) - they give out free road and city maps - on the West coast, we can only get a map of, say, Atlantic Provinces & Quebec, or Montreal. or New England (CT, MA, RI, ME, NH, VT). I know if I go to the CAA offices in these places, I can get better local maps, say St John's for just one map for NL with town plans on back - presumably in QC, I could have gotten a map showing the outer suburbs of Montreal - mine stops in the middle of Ile Jesus, so has most of Laval, but nothing from the northern St Lawrence Shore. Most maps available most offices cover 1-2 provinces/states, like BC/AB, ON, TX, CA, OR/WA,

Here's the 1895 ed:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/electoral-atlas/index-e.html

Lovell (editted) says:
Greenshields Ave
from 335 Beaumont Ave, N to Blvd Cromazie, Ahuntzic-Bordeaux ward.
2951-3200
3208 Stewart Wm ********************
3210 Stewart Jos *******************
3211-3231
Hopper Ave (312) intersects
3343-3371
Ogilvie Ave (304) intersects
3418-3510
Abraham Ave intersects
3518 Greenshields Ave School
Ave Anvers intersects
Blair Ave intersects
Dickson Ave intersects
Howard Ave intersects
3560-3707
[Blvd Cromazie is parallel to, and immediately adjacent to, Autoroute Metropolitain - the Montreal section of the freeway between Ottawa and Trois-Rivieres/Quebec City.]
[Greenshields seems to be renamed now as Ave de l'Epee, but the Greenshields name is preserved as a stubby little cross street bordering Athena Park on Jean-Talon Street West.
It seems all the neighbouring streets parallel to the old Greenshields were renamed so they now look like continuations of the older-named Outremont streets that got interupted by the railroad tracks.]


Street directions are a bit problematic for Montreal.
The Ile de Montreal is banana shaped, with one end pointing N and the other end pointing W.
In the centre, like around Outremont, streets don't really run S-N, but more like SE-NW.

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My guess was Laurier-Outrement - https://maps.google.com/ shows Greenshields as jus NW of Outremont.
I skimmed thru the Laurier bits - I think the NE boundary of Outremont runs down the middle of Hutchison - they seem to coverthe bit NE of Outremont up to, but excluding, St Denis. They cover up to the 3200s
Maybe the Outremont bits of Laurier-Outrement reach NW a couple of blocks.


You'ld realize this yourelf, eventually, but the Ancestry image # is at centre bottom - you can click on the number, type in a new one, then hit enter.
Sometimes, I just couldn't make out a street name, although the person was clear.
So here, the alphabetical part of Lovell was helpful.
I confirmed this by now looking up in the street bit of Lovell, and seeing a few neighbours, and am now forewarned of likely cross streets, as well as being able to locate the block of whetever street on a modern map (the area seems to be renumbered now).

Thank you for info on this thread...

I cannot get my head round it at all...

In 1911 my lot were living in Ceder Cottage area of Vancouver, District 12, Sub District 55 South Vancouver....search as I might, I cannot find anything to tally with this info (its prob right under my nose !!)

Please could someone point me in the right direction....

Misty x

Thanks Moonbeam,
I will keep looking.
Unfortunately, this family only moved to Canada in 1915
The address on the 1921 directory is correct as it matches with various travel documents for wider family members

GlasgowLass

Here are some of the Montreal Districts:

Georges-Etienne Cartier
Hochelaga
Jacques Cartier - Lachine
Laurier-Outrement
Maisonneuve
St. Antoine, Montreal
St. Denis, Montreal
St. Jacques
St. Lawrence - St. George
Ste. Anne, Montreal
Ste. Marie
Westmount-St. Henri

If you click on the district names you will see the sub-districts and wards. I'm not sure if I have them all.

It would be helpful if there was a map available showing the location of the districts like there is for the 1911. Maybe there is one on Canada Archives but I haven't yet been able to find it.

MGNV,
Many thanks
Using your wonderful directory link, I found the entry that I was looking for in Montreal 1921, which means I have an address.
Jos Stewart, 3210 Greenshields Ave

However, using the Ancestry.ca link to the 1921 census of Quebec, Montreal is not on the drop down list.

Got any ideas?

Moonbeam,

Thank you so very very much, am off to see my Dad listed with his parents for the first time, and hopefully Great Granddad who as there as well.

Kind regards Amanda xx

Amanda

Select the Province of Saskatchewan, District Saskatoon. Then if you scroll down the page you will come to Sub-District 33 which is the Town of Biggar .

Does anyone know which District Biggar in Saskatoon comes under?

Kind regards
Amanda

Thank you very much Moonbeam,

regards
jean

Jean

You'll find St. Clarens Avenue Toronto in the Parkdale District of the Province of Ontario, Sub-Districts 058, 059, 060 and 061.

Thanks for this,

Does anyone know how I can find which ward St.Clarens Avenue Toronto is in ?

thank you
jean

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