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eleted what I put up as Marie had already put it on here.

I don't know late again!!!!!!!!

Although Elsie Rosetta is recorded on census as surname South doesn't look like she was registered as South at birth:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Rosetta Elsie Haley
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1898
Registration district: Portsea Island
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 463

Need christopher to confirm some of the postings .....its getting more complex as it goes on... I lost site of the "Porters" along the way...!!

This must be where the Portsmouth connection came in:

1911
MILLER, Eliza Head Mother Widow F 59 1852 London Southwark
MILLER, Ernest Robert Son Single M 21 1890 Cigar Merchant Assistant London Lambeth
SOUTH, Elsie Roseter Adopted Single F 13 1898 Portsmouth <<<
PETERS, Clara Visited Single F 38 1873 Barmaid London Kennington

RG number: RG14 Piece: 1969
Reference: RG14PN1969 RG78PN69 RD25 SD1 ED27 SN241
Registration District: Lambeth
Sub District: Lambeth
Church Enumeration District: 27
Parish: Lambeth

Address: 9 Hotspur ST County:
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1901
HALEY, Thomas Head Married M 60 1841 Pensioner & Labourer Coal Store Pembrokeshire, Wales
HALEY, Ann Wife Married F 54 1847 Southsea, Hampshire
HALEY, Charlotte Daughter Single F 26 1875 Cigarette Maker St Maws, Cornwall
HALEY, Edith Daughter Single F 20 1881 Cigarette Maker St Maws, Cornwall
HALEY, Florence Daughter Single F 18 1883 St Maws, Cornwall
HALEY, Donald Son M 15 1886 Errand Boy St Maws, Cornwall
HALEY, Dick Son M 13 1888 Errand Boy St Maws, Cornwall
POTS, Sydney Boarder Single M 25 1876 Mineral Water Factory Ryde, Isle of Wight
SOUTH, Elsie Grand Child F 3 1898 Southsea, Hampshire

Piece: 1001 Folio: 96 Page: 5
Registration District: Portsmouth
Civil Parish: Portsmouth

Address: 7, Southsea Steel Street, Portsmouth County: Hampshire

Going back to Christopher's grandfather:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: William Henry Augustus Porter - schoolteacher
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Age: 23
Spouse Name: Elsie Rosetta South
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 3 Jul 1921
Parish: Lambeth St Philip
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: William Herbert Porter - carpenter
Spouse Father Name: Alfred South - labourer
Register Type: Parish Register

Neither married before, both give address as 41 Vincent Street.

Witnesses: Charlotte Mary Wilson, Alexander McIntyre & Thos F Garnish

Possible James......

Name: James J Dance
Age (Original): 12
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1869
Birthplace: Wales
Relationship to Head of Household: Scholar
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Scholar
Address: King Edward School Wormley Hill Godalming
Event Place: Godalming, Surrey, England
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341183
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 780 / 101
Page Number: 2

1881...Lilla

Name: Lilla Dance
Age (Original): 14
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1867
Birthplace: Wales
Relationship to Head of Household: Scholar
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Scholar
Address: King Edward Schools St Georges Road
Event Place: St George The Martyr Southwark, Surrey, England
DiGS Film number: 1341120
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 531 / 96
Page Number: 1

All baptised on the same day.

Address of parents 12 Marlborough St.

Father James a Coffee House Keeper

All these children were Baptised St Saviours 1874...Parents James and Caroline....No Laura Maud found yet.

Ada
William
Esther Ann
James
Alfred
Lilla
***Henry Stephen ***

Name: Henry Stephen Dance
Age (Original): 11
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1870
Birthplace: Westminster, Middlesex, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Scholar
Marital Status: Single
Occupation:
Address: Surrey Rev C H Spurgeons Orphanage Clapham Rd
Event Place: Lambeth, Surrey, England
GS Film number: 1341141
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 612 / 135
Page Number: 1

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Caroline Evans
Name: Caroline Evans
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1864
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 304



James Dance Jan-Feb-Mar 1864 Cardiff Glamorgan

Caroline Evans Jan-Feb-Mar 1864 Cardiff Glamorgan

1871....Caroline's Family....

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Copy|PrintEsther A Dance in household of James Dance, "England and Wales Census, 1871"Name: Esther A Dance
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 6
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Cardiff, Glamorganshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-District: Christ Church
Parish: Christ Church
County: London, Surrey
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self James Dance M 29 Welford, Berkshire
Wife Caroline Dance F 26 Pembroke Dock, Pembrokeshire
Daughter Esther A Dance F 6 Cardiff, Glamorganshire
Daughter Lilla Dance F 4 Cardiff, Glamorganshire
Son Henry L Dance M 1 Christchurch, Surrey
Visitor Clara Evans F 16 Cardiff, Glamorganshire
Boarder Robert Martin M 59 Cullompton, Devonshire

Deaths Jun 1879
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Dance James 37 St. Saviour 1d 1

Well done Choccy - that's 2 more accounted for.

I've been through Laura Maud's siblings from the 1871 & 1891 and can't find a Grace or Dorothy with them in 1911.

Laura's siblings seem to be scattered about various institutions in 1881.

Grace and Dorothy?


1911

RG14PN11443 RG78PN624 RD230 SD2 ED1 SN167
Reg. District: Depwade
Sub District: Diss
Parish: Diss
Enum. District: 1
Address: Frenze Lane Diss
County: Norfolk

SMITH, Harry Head Married M 55 1856 Groom And Gardener Wortham Suffolk
SMITH, Mary Ann Wife Married
23 years F 47 1864 Langmare Norfolk
SMITH, Ruth Daughter F 11 1900 School Diss Norfolk
>>>>>PORTER, Grace Boarder F 5 1906 Lambeth S E
>>>>>PORTER, Dorothy Boarder F 3 1908 Kennington S E

Possible for Caroline....

Name: Caroline Dance
Age (Original): 36
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1845
Birthplace: Cardiff S W
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Widow
Occupation: Machinist
Address: 9 Robert St
Event Place: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341134
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 587 / 106
Page Number: 32
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Caroline Dance F 36 Cardiff S W
Daughter Esther A Dance F 18 Cardiff S W
Lodger George Rippon M 40 N Castle Upon Tyne

could this be the James F Porter in the 1901 census?


Births Jun 1901 (>99%)
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PORTER Frederick James Lambeth 1d 346


and possibly?


1911

RG14PN6856 RG78PN342 RD128 SD3 ED3 SN144
Reg. District: Brentford
Sub District: Hanwell
Parish: Hanwell
Enum. District: 3
Address: 34 Uxbridge Road Hanwell W (Home for Motherless Boys)
County: Middlesex


OWENS, Arthur Inmate M 10 1901 At School Monmouth Newport
OWENS, Clifford Inmate M 6 1905 Monmouth Newport
MCLACEY, Leonard Inmate M 9 1902 London Camberwell
FARROW, Gordon R Inmate M 12 1899 London Willesden
EDMANS, George Thomas Inmate M 7 1904 London Dalston
EDMANS, Alexander E Inmate M 12 1899 London Dalston
IGGLESDEN, Herbert R Inmate M 11 1900 London Newcross
STEVENS, Alfred Inmate M 13 1898 London Paddington
FINDLAY, George William Inmate M 9 1902 London Highgate
FROUD, Edward Inmate M 9 1902 Regents PK
>>>>>PORTER, Charles Inmate M 7 1904 London Newington Butts
>>>>>PORTER, Frederick Inmate M 10 1901 London Newington Butts
STAFFORD, Richard Wylde Inmate M 10 1901 Middlesex Ealing
FULLBROOK, James Inmate M 10 1901 London Sussex RD
DOE, Walter Hebt Inmate M 9 1902 London Willesden
JOHN, Donald G S Inmate M 13 1898 Devon W Exeter
HORN, William Lindsay Inmate M 7 1904 Kent Bromley
HICKMAN, Walter Inmate M 9 1902 London Bermondsey
HOTTON, Herbert Charles Inmate M 7 1904 Wales Caidiff
BRODIES, Benjamin Walter Inmate M 7 1904 London Willesden
HEARN, Jack M 10 1901 At School Kent Plumstead
HEARN, Frank M 8 1903 Kent Plumstead
SAWYER, Arthur M 6 1905 London Fulham
QUESNEL, Arthur M 5 1906 London Fulham
CLARKE, Stanley John M 7 1904 London Paddington
DWELLY, Frederick M 7 1904 London Poplar
DWELLY, Hector M 11 1900 London Poplar
EASTON, Kate Newton Matron F 41 1870 Matron London St Georges Parish
WELLS, Annie Caroline Servant F 25 1886 Grn Domestic Servt Kent Gravesend

Sorry Marie Celeste...Just didnt see it...doh..!!
Cannot find Dance family with Laura 1881..only one coming up is for parents Richard and Sarah...

Eringobragh - I've posted that 1891 on page 1

I think I've found another of the children:

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: William Herbert Porter
Year: 1926
County or Borough: Lambeth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Lambeth
Street Address: 38 Cleaver Street

He's with a Mary Catherine and a Charles Walter Porter.

ADDED:
He would be this birth

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Charles Walter Porter
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1904
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 350

Can't find him in 1911

1891.....I dont have access to check household


Name: Laura M Dance
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1891
Gender: Female
Age: 15
Relationship to Head of Household: Stepdaughter
Birthplace: Southwark, London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Edmonton
Sub-District: Edmonton
Ecclesiastical Parish: All Saints
Parish: Edmonton
County: Middlesex

Births Sep 1876 (>99%)
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Dance Laura Maud St Saviour Southwark 1d 6