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GenealogyResearchAssistance

GenealogyResearchAssistance Report 10 Jul 2013 22:54

I've posted the request on the suggestions board :-D

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 10 Jul 2013 22:32

TootyFruity, Sylvia, I would also approve the addition of a quote option on the boards,

It may be a good idea for it to be added as a suggestion on the appropriate board where I would add my support

Roy

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Jul 2013 22:24

I would also be very happy if GR introduced a quote function .......................


until then, I will continue to c&p where necessary .........

.... for example, when I am commenting on something that was said several posts before

or when the poster is known to delete or edit posts, without informing others that this has happened.

I c&p under the latter condition because removing a post just makes everyone else look stupid, and I prefer not to look stupid. ;-)

GenealogyResearchAssistance

GenealogyResearchAssistance Report 10 Jul 2013 22:14

GR's is antequated compared to other SMF forums which all have a quote option. To quote another post can often be useful so that there is no misunderstanding to whom the reply is directed especially if answering a direct question.

So I for one would be happy if GR introduced the quote function.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 10 Jul 2013 12:00

CupCakes

"The guidelines for message board use also says "Please do not post anything might appear intimidating to other Members." - surely this covers such posts."

If a C&P of what a member has said/posted "might appear intimidating to other Members" on the boards comes under the above guidelines then surely the original post also breaches the T&C's because it also "might appear intimidating to other Members"

Roy

Edit; it's copying and pasting what has already been said, NOT an interpretation or out of context post but a copy of the actual text

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Jul 2013 11:56

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GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Jul 2013 11:55

Thanks Roy.

I will have to think twice about that in future.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 10 Jul 2013 11:39

GlitterBaby, The team have removed messages from them that have then been posted on the boards in the past so i would say Yes that does breach T&C

Roy

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Jul 2013 11:36

So are we in trouble if we copy & paste a message received from the GR Team ?

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 10 Jul 2013 11:29

If the C&P is copied and pasted from one thread/post on to another thread/post then it is NOT a third party posting because the content is already available to all on a public forum

The only time C&P is a in breach (as in a third party post) is when it is a C&P from content only available to two people

example, If i send a PM to some one that info is only available to the person who sent it and the person who received it, (TWO people) it comes under "third party" when the receiver makes it available to others a ( third party )

Roy

Rambling

Rambling Report 10 Jul 2013 11:27

Natasha, one thing that does need sorting out imo is the changing of board names to deliberately 'hide' behind a new name

eg if X is known as a sender of dubious messages and nasty posts and then they change their name to Y...how is one supposed to know that one may be communicating with someone they have tried to avoid!. It isn't possible to keep a note of all membership numbers, and would in any case not allow for spotting the ones who have more than one account.

This has been the cause of much trouble in the past , it continues to be. I don't see any legitimate reason why the 'change board name' facility is there other than a bit of fun at Christmas...and surely we can manage without that?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Jul 2013 11:16

It's perfectly acceptable to copy and paste all or part of a post. I often do it when helping on the boards if I need clarification on something a poster has said I'll extract the specific text and ask for further info or clarification.

InspectorGreenPen - are you inferring I could eventually be banned for doing that?

Also, what about when several people post the same info in response to a query, e.g. a BMD index or census, are they then in contravention of "Please do not submit the same or similar material more than once"? Perhaps we'd better all stop helping in case we get banned! (Oh, and I copied and pasted the text in quotes from your post above).

The guidelines for message board use also says "Please do not post anything might appear intimidating to other Members.", I'm afraid you now have me rather worried and intimidated in case I'm breaking the rules! ;-)

CupCakes

CupCakes Report 10 Jul 2013 11:09

Natasha. We need a point clarifying - Copy and pasting of third party postings into a thread.
Can we report such posts when it is obvious writers are not only point scoring but this type of comment can be very upsetting and stressful for the person targeted.

IGP's posts 9 Jul 2013 19:44 & 9 Jul 2013 20:42 explains it all.

Edit: The guidelines for message board use also says "Please do not post anything might appear intimidating to other Members." - surely this covers such posts.

:-(

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 10 Jul 2013 10:59

I see nothing wrong with C&P in order to clarify a point,

In fact their are plenty of forums that use the system of C&P to communicate effectively in reply to all threads and posts

If you are replying to someone in debate and don't add the content you are replying too then it can be confusing to all reading without the content being available on the same actual post makes the post itself appear to be not relevant.

If I C&P content from any member and then post that content as a quote addressed to that same member with my reply/input then that is NOT a Copy and pasting of/to a third party,


third par·ty

Noun
A person or group besides the two primarily involved in a situation, esp. a dispute.
Adjective
Of or relating to a person or group besides the two primarily involved in a situation.
Synonyms
third person

Roy

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 9 Jul 2013 20:42

I can understand the rationale against the same member posting a request for information multiple times, but this is another league altogether.

All I can say those who are minded to copy and paste content from other members threads to clarify their point should think twice before doing so.

jax

jax Report 9 Jul 2013 20:08

As far as I am aware Posting about the same family more than once has always been one of the guidelines

I once posted a link to a previous thread which was reported....when I complained I was told I should have reported the thread??? so obviously GR like having more work for themselves

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 9 Jul 2013 19:44

Copy and pasting of third party postings into a thread.

This is something that many, especially, our regular, expert and long standing members do on a regular basis, and of which examples are frequently seen on the message boards.

Apparently this is in contravention of the GR Guideline to Message Board Postings "Please do not submit the same or similar material more than once" and results in removal should the posting be reported for review.

This is something that I don't remember happening in the past so can I ask is it a new policy?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Jul 2013 09:31

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/suggestions/thread/1283730

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE

When is this problem going to be dealt with by the Team.

It does not seem to matter if a member has a post count lower than 1,000 or more than 20,000 the error message is a problem.

A question that I have asked before and no one will answer but how many times does an error message have to be reported before the Team investigate?

I alone must be responsible for 100's but nothing is being done about it !!!!!

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE from one fed up member.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 7 Jul 2013 22:06

Roy


the member I'm thinking of who admitted reporting their own posts ................. also said it was because they wanted to see what would happen :-S :-S :-S



they did not report back :-)

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 7 Jul 2013 09:21

No one should have the ability to report their own thread.

All members have the ability to delete or edit their thread/post if required

By reporting your own thread/post you are simply drawing attention to the "reported" thread which will always result in Controversy

IMO the only people who would contemplate such a thing is one who seeks attention at any cost and with absolutely no regard to other board users thoughts or feelings.

Roy