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27 Dec 2012 12:05 |
freebmd Deaths Mar 1846 BUCK Edward Clifton Canterbury 5 45
To match with
family search William Clifton Buck England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 spouse: Charlotte Buck child: Edward Clifton Buck name: Edward Clifton Buck gender: Male baptism/christening date: 20 Jul 1845 baptism/christening place: Canterbury, Kent, England father's name: William Clifton Buck mother's name: Charlotte Buck indexing project (batch) number: I00752-3 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1786210
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LadyKira
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27 Dec 2012 12:01 |
I wonder if this is the other witness?
Deaths Dec 1873 HERITAGE Peter Vanheer 76 Thanet 2a 460
No clues there.
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LadyKira
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27 Dec 2012 11:51 |
Charlotte's father or grandfather?
1841 Address: St Peter Street Grove's Lane, St Peter, Canterbury PERKINS, John M 78 1763 Kent PERKINS, Judith F 60 1781 Kent ORCHARD, Emily F 9 1832 Kent BLOGG, Charles F 4 1837 Kent
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LadyKira
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27 Dec 2012 11:43 |
This is one of the witnesses on william Clifton Bucks marriage to Charlotte. They lived on the same Street.
fmp 1841 Address: St Peter Street, St Peter, Canterbury HALSEY, Richard M 39 1802 Kent HALSEY, Charlotte F 39 1802 Kent HALSEY, Thos M 64 1777 Kent HALSEY, Charlotte F 8 1833 Kent HALSEY, Ellen F 4 1837 Kent BAILEY, Sarah F 65 1776 Kent BAILEY, Harriet F 30 1811 Kent
Surprisingly he is an engineer. Just wonder if that is an unlikely friendship for a Romany traveller at the time. He might be a commercial traveller.
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27 Dec 2012 11:15 |
Oh dear they have William married to 2 women at the same time and having children with both women at the same time.
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27 Dec 2012 11:08 |
This is the baptism of the above William
Ancestry London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about William Buck Name: William Buck Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 6 Dec 1818 Father's Name: Thomas Buck - a chairmaker Mother's Name: Charlotte Buck Parish or Poor Law Union: St Botolph without Bishopsgate Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
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LadyKira
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27 Dec 2012 11:05 |
This looks like that couple in 1841 so not your William who is in Canterbury at that time.
FMP 1841 Address: Claremont Cottages, St Matthew Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets BUCK, Wm M 23 1818 Middlesex BUCK, Martha F 21 1820 Middlesex BUCK, Martha F 1 1840 Middlesex
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LadyKira
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27 Dec 2012 10:58 |
Just looking at a few of the trees on Ancestry.
one has this marriage for William 1818 (No Clifton)
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Martha Bateman Name: Martha Bateman Spouse Name: William Buck -a chairmaker Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 19 Jul 1839 Parish: Haggerston St Mary Borough: Hackney Spouse Father Name: Thomas Buck -a chairmaker Register Type: Parish Register They both lived Francis Street no clue from witnesses.
I think you said his father should be William. The professions are not quite right.
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27 Dec 2012 10:17 |
Just found this one.
Ancestry London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Georgina Clifton Name: Georgina Clifton Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 22 Jun 1879 Father's Name: William Clifton Mother's Name: Emma Buck Parish or Poor Law Union: Hoxton St John Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers
On the image her surname would be Clifton Buck but the vicar got in a muddle.
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Estelle
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27 Dec 2012 09:53 |
Lady Kira, thank you so much. That information is extremely useful. There's a lot to digest, but we tend to write everything down and keep paper copies as we find it easier to keep everything then in some sort of order. This is going to keep us really busy now updating our tree.
Best wishes,
Estelle
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LadyKira
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26 Dec 2012 20:59 |
This is a possible but father is an umbrella maker. Ancestry
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Charles Buck Name: Charles Buck Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 19 Aug 1830 Father's Name: William Buck Mother's Name: Mary Ann Buck Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers
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LadyKira
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26 Dec 2012 20:47 |
I think it is worth following Elizabeth on this census. FMP 1881 census Address: 10, Royal Oak Walk, Shoreditch BUCK, Charlotte Head Widow F 61 1820 Laundress Canterbury, Kent BUCK, Sarah Daughter Married F 22 1859 Fancy Box Maker Ashford, Kent BUCK, Elzbth Lodger Widow F 63 1818 Monthly Nurse Middx City, Middlesex
???A spouse of a brother for William c1818 That would help you find the correct parents. :-)
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26 Dec 2012 20:43 |
FMP 1891 Address: 38, Dunloe Street, Shoreditch, London BUCK, William Head Married M 41 1850 Cabinet Maker Ashford, Kent BUCK, Emma Wife Married F 38 1853 Shoreditch, London BUCK, William Son Single M 17 1874 Upholsterer St Lukes, London BUCK, Emma Daughter F 14 1877 Scholar St Lukes, London BUCK, Edward Son M 7 1884 Scholar Shoreditch, London BUCK, Charlotte Mother Widow F 70 1821 Canterbury, Kent REDMOND Boarder F 56 1835 Bethnal Green, London
Ancestry London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Clifton Buck Name: Clifton Buck Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Age: 47 Spouse Name: Charlotte Alexandra Bentley Spouse Age: 35 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 20 Aug 1898 Parish: Mildmay Grove St Jude Borough: Islington Father Name: William Buck a pedlar deceased Spouse Father Name: Frederick Bentley Register Type: Parish Register
Ancestry England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Charlotte Clifton Pearce Name: Charlotte Clifton Pearce Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1901 Age at Death: 47 Registration district: Shoreditch Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 95 (click to see others on page)
Ancestry London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Emma Clifton Buck Name: Emma Clifton Buck Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Age: 31 Spouse Name: William Robert McLaughlin Spouse Age: 26 Record Type: Banns Event Date: 19 Jul 1908 Parish: Dalston St Philip Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Register
Ancestry London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Emma Clifton Buck London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Emma Clifton Buck Name: Emma Clifton Buck Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Age: 31 Spouse Name: William Robert Mc Laughlin Spouse Age: 26 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 30 Jul 1908 Parish: Dalston St Philip Borough: Hackney Father Name: William Clifton Buck engineers labourer Spouse Father Name: James Mc Laughlin blind fitter Register Type: Parish Register 90 Eleanor Road
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26 Dec 2012 20:43 |
FMP 1871 Address: Haberdasher's Street, St Leonard Shoreditch BACK, Charles Head M 28 1843 Kent BACK, Alice Wife F 21 1850 Middlesex
Ancestry Emma Elizabeth Clifton Buck of Bowling Green Walk Spouse Name: Charles Pearce - Paper Hanger of Red Lion Street Both bride and groom of full age Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 15 May 1864 Parish: Hoxton St John Borough: Hackney Father Name: William Clifton Buck -Hawker Spouse Father Name: John Pearce - Shoemaker Register Type: Parish Register Bride and Groom made their marks. Witnesses John Pearce, and x Elizabeth Day
FMP 1871 Address: Royal Oak Walk, Shoreditch BUCK, Wm C Head M 53 1818 Middlesex BUCK, Charlotte C Wife F 47 1824 Kent BUCK, Mary A C Daughter F 23 1848 Kent BUCK, Clifton Son M 19 1852 Kent BUCK, Charlotte C Daughter F 15 1856 Kent BUCK, Sarah A Daughter F 12 1859 Kent
Ancestry London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Clifton Buck Name: Clifton Buck Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Age: 20 Spouse Name: Emma Clayton Spouse Age: 19 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 29 May 1871 Parish: Hoxton St Andrew Borough: Hackney Father Name: William Buck Spouse Father Name: Thomas Clayton Register Type: Parish Register
Ancestry London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Charlotte Clifton Buck Name: Charlotte Clifton Buck Spouse Name: Robert Pearce a shoemaker Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 12 Nov 1871 Parish: South Hackney St John of Jerusalem Borough: Hackney Father Name: William Clifton Buck a commercial traveller Spouse Father Name: John Pearce a shoemaker Register Type: Parish Register Witnessed by William Pearce and Sarah Pearce
Ancestry London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about William Clifton Buck Name: William Clifton Buck Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 15 Feb 1874 Father's Name: William Clifton Buck Mother's Name: Emma Buck Parish or Poor Law Union: Hoxton St John Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers 23 Richmond Street Father is a cabinet maker
Ancestry London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Emma Clifton Buck Name: Emma Clifton Buck Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 14 Jan 1877 Father's Name: William Clifton Buck a cabinet maker Mother's Name: Emma Buck Parish or Poor Law Union: Hoxton St John Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers 23 Richmond street
FMP 1881 census Address: 10, Royal Oak Walk, Shoreditch BUCK, Charlotte Head Widow F 61 1820 Laundress Canterbury, Kent BUCK, Sarah Daughter Married F 22 1859 Fancy Box Maker Ashford, Kent BUCK, Elzbth Lodger Widow F 63 1818 Monthly Nurse Middx City, Middlesex
FMP 1881 Address: 107, Brittania St, Shoreditch BUCK, Charles Head Married M 33 1848 Sadler Canterbury, Kent BUCK, Alice Wife Married F 30 1851 Dress Maker London, Middlesex BUCK, Charles Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar London, Middlesex BUCK, Henry Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar London, Middlesex BUCK, Alice Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar London, Middlesex BUCK, Mary A Daughter Single F 3 1878 London, Middlesex WILLSON, Charlotte Mother In Law Widow F 53 1828 Laundress London, Middlesex CLEMENT, Eliza Servant Single F 17 1864 Servant London, Middlesex CLEMENT, Emily Nurse Child Single F 7 1874 London, Middlesex
FMP 1881 Address: 1, Columbia Rd, Bethnal Green BUCK, William Head Married M 29 1852 Cabinet Maker Ashford, Middlesex BUCK, Emma Wife Married F 28 1853 Shoreditch, Middlesex BUCK, William Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar St Lukes, Middlesex BUCK, Emma Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar St Lukes, Middlesex
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26 Dec 2012 20:42 |
FMP 1851 Address: 4, Barrow Hill Row, Ashford BUCK, William Head Married M 31 1820 Railway Labr Shoreditch, Middlesex BUCK, Charlotte Wife Married F 30 1821 Canterbury, Kent BUCK, Emma Daughter F 10 1841 Canterbury, Kent BUCK, Mary A Daughter F 7 1844 Canterbury, Kent PERKINS, John Nephew Unmarried M 17 1834 Rail Labr Canterbury, Kent GREWCOCK, Godfrey Lodger Unmarried M 17 1834 Rail Labr Canterbury, Kent BUCK, Charles Son M 4 1847 Canterbury, Kent Listed as Grewcock on Ancestry)
FMP ?1851 Address: 22, Star Street, Saint George, Tower Hamlets BUCK, Elizabeth Lodger Widow F 30 1821 Chair Mender Shoreditch, Middlesex
FMP 1861 census Address: Barrow Hill, Ashford BERCK, William C Head Married M 49 1812 Costermonger Shoreditch, Middlesex BERCK, Charlotte Wife Married F 40 1821 Canterbury, Kent BERCK, Emma E C Daughter Unmarried F 20 1841 Dressmaker Canterbury, Kent BERCK, Charles H C Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Harner Maker Canterbury, Kent BERCK, Mary A C Daughter Unmarried F 14 1847 Servant Canterbury, Kent BERCK, Clifton Son Unmarried M 10 1851 Scholar Ashford, Kent BERCK, Charlotte C Daughter Unmarried F 6 1855 Scholar Ashford, Kent BERCK, Sarah Ann C Daughter Unmarried F 3 1858 Ashford, Kent Correction sent to FMP
Ancestry London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Charles Henry Clifton Buck Name: Charles Henry Clifton Buck Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Age: 27 Spouse Name: Alice Sophia Willson Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 4 Sep 1870 Parish: Hoxton St Andrew Borough: Hackney Father Name: William Clifton Buck Traveller Register Type: Parish Register
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26 Dec 2012 20:41 |
I am going to post in chronology order from oldest stuff to most recent stuff' It may take several posts. I have included census although I know you have them as it helped me to follow the family.
Civil registration event: MarriageName: BUCK, William CliftonRegistration district: [?] Canterbury County: KentYear of registration: 1840Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name Not available before 1912Volume no: [?] 5 Page no: [?] 117 William Clifton Buck was born in 1818 in Shoreditch. He married Charlotte Perkins in 1840 in Kent.
FMP 1841 Address: St Peter Street Grove's Lane, St Peter, Canterbury BUCK, William M 22 1819 BUCK, Charlotte F 21 1820 BUCK, Emma F 0 (4 months) 1841 Kent
Possible connection FMP 1841 Address: Wincheap, St Mildred, Canterbury WATERS, Mary Ann F 54 1787 WATERS, Alfred M 16 1825 WATERS, Harriett F 14 1827 BUCK, William M 86 1755 POTTS, Mary F 16 1825 Kent
family Search William Clifton Buck England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 spouse: Charlotte Buck child: Emma Elizabeth Buck name: Emma Elizabeth Buck gender: Female baptism/christening date: 12 May 1841 baptism/christening place: Canterbury, Kent, England father's name: William Clifton Buck mother's name: Charlotte Buck indexing project (batch) number: I00752-3 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 1786210
Family Search William Clifton Buck England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 spouse: Charlotte Buck child: Charles Henry Buck name: Charles Henry Buck gender: Male baptism/christening date: 13 Aug 1843 baptism/christening place: Canterbury, Kent, England father's name: William Clifton Buck mother's name: Charlotte Buck indexing project (batch) number: I00752-3 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1786210
Family Search William Clifton Buck England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 spouse: Charlotte Buck child: Edward Clifton Buck name: Edward Clifton Buck gender: Male baptism/christening date: 20 Jul 1845 baptism/christening place: Canterbury, Kent, England father's name: William Clifton Buck mother's name: Charlotte Buck indexing project (batch) number: I00752-3 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1786210
Family Search William Clifton Buck England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 spouse: Charlotte Buck child: Mary Ann Buck name: Mary Ann Buck gender: Female baptism/christening date: 18 May 1847 baptism/christening place: Canterbury, Kent, England father's name: William Clifton Buck mother's name: Charlotte Buck indexing project (batch) number: I00752-3 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1786210
Family Search William Clifton Buck England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 spouse: Charlotte Buck child: Eliza Buck name: Eliza Buck gender: Female baptism/christening date: 06 Oct 1849 baptism/christening place: Canterbury, Kent, England father's name: William Clifton Buck mother's name: Charlotte Buck indexing project (batch) number: I00752-3 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1786210
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LadyKira
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26 Dec 2012 18:28 |
I am working on this Estelle.
In between family stuff that is.
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Estelle
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26 Dec 2012 18:04 |
Hello everyone!
Well apologies for posting on the wrong board. I have no excuse for that one really :-( And sorry for not replying sooner. We have been busy with family and finally got round to a bit more research now.
However, many thanks for the helpful replies. :-)
I have already been in touch with another member on here who has given me some useful info. And I'll take a look at Rootschat too for the Romany info.
Best wishes,
Estelle
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MarieCeleste
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26 Dec 2012 17:16 |
Yes, GB and Cynthia, was also tempted to point out the guidelines about the poster staying around to answer questions and acknowledge what's been posted. ;-)
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Cynthia
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26 Dec 2012 13:27 |
wink, wink ;-) ;-)
:-D
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