Genealogy Chat

Alan,
RE: your question about combining trees. See my post on-

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1316865

Have not tried it myself, as I was just responding to a question. But it does seem that it is possible to combine files.

A number of years ago a very distantly related relation of my husband, whom I met here on Genes started a tree on Ancestry to which she invited me and 25 others to be Editors of . She was dying of cancer and wanted to leave a legacy. She had created her tree and we added onward from where our families connected in. It has been a very successful exercise. She sadly died in 2011, however everyone involved now has a valuable resource.
As an editor you can add or subtract, upload photos, edit etc.

Lesley,
Another person can only make addiitions to your ANC tree if you invite them to be an EDITOR.
I did this once... and will never do it again
The person added loads of absolute rubbish which I later removed in addition to their editorial status!

Anne

I have a comprehensive GR tree. My wife has her tree on Ancestry...My children want to add my tree details to my wife's Ancestry tree. Can this be done using Gedcom files without entering 800 odd individual entries ?

Wisechild - exactly. "A" has total control. Should "B" do anything not liked then "A" just takes away any permission to touch the tree! Easy. The person with all the control is whoever's tree it is.

If B adds something to A,s tree that A doesn´t want or agree with, A just deletes it & tells B why.

Hi DF

well, if one assumes that A gave B access to the tree ............ and B then makes changes to the tree, which A did not want, but B refuses to a) remove them and b) continues to make changes



then one has a problem, I would think!




Rollo ...............


It really makes no difference to me whether GR makes those changes or not.


I still will not allow anyone access to my tree.



sylvia

Hi Sylvia,
How on earth does anyone have access to a tree that the "owner" doesn't want? Just "uninvite" them - sorted! They can still give "Guest" access so the person can look but not alter anything.
Deb

GRU have said that they are planning to offer both collaboration and multiple trees at some point and that the shift to the new code base was needed to allow this. Time will tell. Of course if the new fashion never to respond to messages or share trees continues to spread then there will not be much point.

With Ay the tree owner can easily change the shared status up or down or even un invite in a few mouse clicks using the tree manager. The ability to collaborate is one of the best features of Ay. As you can have as many trees as you like it is perfectly possible to have a shared tree and a private tree dealing overlapping - it is pretty ez to synch.

A lot of people on GRU seem to assume that people always study their own FH and indeed that it is somehow "owned" by descendents. Not at all in the case of public records. Frequent basis of Ay trees are (a) one name studies (b) location studies and (c) historical events. With Ay it is ez to collect in a tree branches which do not connect at first or at all. That is impossible with GRU.

DF


There is a difference between

"If you are "invited" to be an Editor to someones tree - and the tree owner WANTS that - whats the problem? "


and the situation where someone is adding names to a tree when the tree owner does NOT want it!

If you are "invited" to be an Editor to someones tree - and the tree owner WANTS that - whats the problem? I got my friend interested in doing her tree (after "boring" her with my family history stories) - I had the knowledge, she was a complete beginner - as an editor I could add things that I had found with my Worldwide Ancestry & FMP membership - she could only afford basic Ancestry membership. I was helping, more accurately than if she was struggling to do it as a beginner - she bought certificates where needed. Why the shock horror of someone having access? We talk about additions on a daily basis and spend hours searching for her brickwalls together. She has learnt as we go along. Can't see the problem at all.
Deb

The tree holder can invite others to edit their trees.
Once the invitation has been accepted, the other person just has to click on a drop down menu to access the tree.
No need for passwords etc.
Sorry but I can´t agree to differ with someone who has a woman married to 2 men at the same time & having children with both of them.
Especially when I hold all the relevant certs.

Are people getting confused between the tree which they are building, and one that someone else (in parallel) is also building?

I can't understand how someone has add a name to someone elses tree unless they have the log in details. Surely as the Tree Owner, you can delete the addition in your own tree?

We do have to remember that ‘our’ relatives are also someone else’s, even as a remote twig.

Yes, other people have made stupid errors, as in all probability have we. If there is a serious disagreement, then it is up to both parties to purchase the necessary certificates to prove one way or the other.

Sometimes, you have to agree to differ, especially when having to rely on parish records with identically named people being baptised or married within a couple of years of each other and in the same general area.

As we know from this site, many people start their research with gusto, only to loose interest. If they are able to answer messages, but choose to ignore them, then it’s their loss not ours.

Yes, but there´s a difference between adding a comment & adding new family members to someone else´s tree.
I often get messages from Ancestry saying that new info has been added to my tree & have lost count of the number of times I have looked up an ancestor & found that siblings &/or children have been added however remote the relationship is to me.

Any Ancestry member can post comments to any public tree.

Lesley,

I have a work in progress on Ancestry. I found out very soon after starting it the very real problem of someone adding to my tree & their absolute refusal to remove the addition which is totally incorrect. That was when I first knew someone else could add to my tree.

In spite of several polite requests it hasn't been removed, only built on with names I've never heard of. As the parents are my late grandparents whom I saw weekly, my father's parents & they & I live on the other side of the world, there is adamant refusal to remove the names. I now have deleted that tree & closed that a/c.
I now work on the same relationship as "wisechild" & all is fine. Lois

I have access to edit several trees on Ancestry & am in close contact with the tree owners, having established our relationship to each other.
What I always do if I find new info for their branch is e mail the info to them & let them add it to their tree when they have checked it out.
They do the same for me.
I get so frustrated when I see glaring errors on some trees & when I contact the person to give them the correct info, I am totally ignored.
Have got to the stage now where I don´t even bother to mention it.

Look at the duff info on Wikipediea where anyone can add anything they like.

There are people out there who add bogus info for fun just to see if that info is ever mentioned by the media.

I would NEVER allow anyone to touch my tree. I have spent a lot of time and a vast amount of money to ensure that my tree although small is as accurate as I can make it.

As Sylvia has said, let them view your tree email additions/amendments so you can verify and then add when you are happy.

Look but dont touch comes to mind.

Do you really really want someone else to add names to your tree??


or to edit what is on there???


I most certainly would NOT!!



How do you know that they have researched thoroughly the names they enter or edit?

How do you know that names added or edited are really "yours"?




I'd get them to email me with the information, and then I myself would research them and check they were valid additions to my tree



Similarly, I would never dream of editing or adding to someone else's tree ................... I would either email them OR add a comment to a particular person.




sylvia