Genealogy Chat

Rebecca

I would doubt that Reg Hubbard was the father ............... you probably will never find out that name.


The only possibilities are 1) if Leonard was baptised and the vicar made a notation in the margin of the Parish Register as to the putative father, or 2) Evelyn took the father to court to get a maintenance order.


There was no legal process for official adoptions until mid-1927 ............... but there were many unofficial adoptions before that, of course.

It is more probable that Reg accepted Leonard into the marriage, and the child then took Reg's surname.


It is even possible/probable that Leonard did not know that he was not Reg's child because he was so young when it all happened.




sylvia

1901
MALIN, Walter Head Married M 31 1870 Coachman (Domestic)
Wolvey
Warwickshire VIEW
MALIN, Sarah A Wife Married F 31 1870
Ancaster
Lincolnshire VIEW
MALIN, Elsie L Daughter F 6 1895
Queniboro
Leicestershire VIEW
MALIN, Evelyn Daughter F 5 1896
Queniboro
Leicestershire VIEW
Piece:
2955 Folio:
67 Page:
9 Registration District:
Billesdon

Civil Parish:
Keyham Municipal Borough:
Address:
Keyham Village, Keyham County:
Leicestershire

note its reg district Billesdon

she is in service in 1911
THOMPSON, John Henry Head Widower M 55 1856 Independent Leicestershire Leicester VIEW
THOMPSON, Winifred Daughter Single F 27 1884 Leicestershire Leicester VIEW
THOMPSON, Eric Son Single M 26 1885 Worsted Spinner Leicestershire Leicester VIEW
THOMPSON, Frances Maud Daughter Single F 21 1890 Leicestershire Leicester VIEW
APPLEGATE, Eliza Jane Nurse Companion Single F 28 1883 Nurse Companion London Mile End VIEW
JONES, Ellen Servant Single F 41 1870 Cook Domestic Warwickshire Atherstone VIEW
LOVETT, Nellie Servant Single F 18 1893 Housemaid Do0mestic Lster Ashley Dela Zonch VIEW
MALIN, Evelyn Servant Single F 16 1895 Kitchenmaid Domestic L'ster Queenborough VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
19273 Reference:
RG14PN19273 RG78PN1152A RD407 SD3 ED9 SN301

Registration District:
Leicester Sub District:
South Leicester Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Leicester

Address:
The Woodlands Knighton Road Leicester County:
Leicestershire

well its unlikely Leonard has a father listed on his birth cert. Seems more likely Evelyn took Leonard into the marriage with Reg Hubbard rather than him being the father

Shirley - thanks for the Death details for Evelyn

The birth looks promising. Leonard middle Initial is T, and born in Billesdon but thats all we knew.
Marriage says Hubbard, The marriage of his mum to Reg Hubbard was 1st Qtr of 1919 which would have been two years after Leonards Birth.
Could be is dad. Will check 1911 census for Evelyn Malin.
Thanks :-)

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It is Leonard T on the marriage registration, therefore is this his birth registration???


Births Mar 1917 (>99%)

Malin Leonard T Malin Billesdon 7a 31


Billesdon is in Leicestershire





sylvia

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Name: Evelyn Malin
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1895
Registration district: Barrow Upon Soar
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 152

Edit note re census's place of birth
Barrow upon Soar covered Queniborough as its spelt in the Reg district lists

Name: Evelyn Hubbard
Birth Date: abt 1896
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1957
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Lichfield
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 177


so died a year before he remarried Edith

Maybe Reg had been married to Leonard's mum so took on Leonard as his son


Name: Reginald E Hubbard
Spouse Surname: Malin
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1919
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 371
Find Spouse: Evelyn Malin

When was Leonard born ??

Shirley, you are a star the marriages are correct and Edith married again to reg Hubbard in 1958 his son Leonard married Joan Rhoda Warwick. Which would have been her step brother. Another family rumour solved.

We are not completely sure that reg was Leonard's dad as we think Leonard was born malin which was his mums maiden name. Another secret to solve.

:-D <3

Thanks I found the census before but wasn't too sure, the names all tally with the census of 1901.

I have found Rhoda's maiden name as Haven and had a sister Mary Ann, mum was Ann listed as unmarried on c1881.

Thankyou so much for filling in the gap. Just need birth cert to confirm. Looks like we may have solved the family mystery. Well one of them anyway. :-D

1901
LATHWOOD, John Head Married M 24 1877 Wood Sawyer
Birmm
Warwickshire VIEW
LATHWOOD, Rhoda Wife Married F 27 1874 Milliner Machinist
London VIEW
LATHWOOD, Edith Daughter F 6 1895
Birmm
Warwickshire VIEW
LATHWOOD, Rose Daughter F 4 1897
Birmm
Warwickshire VIEW
LATHWOOD, John A Son M 2 1899
Birmm
Warwickshire VIEW
LATHWOOD, Lilian Daughter F 0 (2 MOS) 1901
Birmm
Warwickshire VIEW
Piece:
2849 Folio:
150 Page:
22 Registration District:
Birmingham

Civil Parish:
Birmingham Municipal Borough:
Address:
13, 1, Court House, Heaton Street, Birmingham County:
Warwickshire


1911

LATHWOOD, John Head Married M 37 1874 Button Tool Maker Birmingham VIEW
LATHWOOD Wife Married
17 years F 39 1872 London VIEW
LATHWOOD, Edith Daughter Single F 16 1895 Gear Case Maker Birmingham VIEW
LATHWOOD, Rosa Daughter Single F 15 1896 Errand Girl Birmingham VIEW
LATHWOOD, Jack Son Single M 12 1899 School Birmingham VIEW
LATHWOOD, Lilian Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Birmingham VIEW
LATHWOOD, Frederick Son Single M 8 1903 School Handsworth Staffordshire VIEW
LATHWOOD, Doris Daughter Single F 5 1906 School Handsworth Staffordshire VIEW
LATHWOOD, Arthur Son Single M 3 1908 Handsworth Staffordshire VIEW
LATHWOOD, Harry Son Single M 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Handsworth Staffordshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17229 Reference:
RG14PN17229 RG78PN1059 RD371 SD1 ED24 SN145

Registration District:
West Bromwich Sub District:
Handsworth Enumeration District:
24 Parish:
Handsworth

Address:
58 Cornwall Road Handsworth Birmingham County:
Staffordshire


married 17 years 8 children all living

That info is very interesting. I have came accross An edith Lathwood but not sure as one was Lilian Edith Lathwood 1901 and Edith Lilian Lathwood and also a Lilian Emily Lathwood, but on closer inspection they all seem to be connected to same family. on the census of 1901 and 1911.
I think your right on the Birth Cert, I have a number for my husbands aunt so I feel a visit is required. Theres lots of Ghost in the family cupboard and strange twists so it will be interesting to find out more.
Thankyou :-)

Links to Birmingham ???

Name: Edith Lathwood
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1894
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 86

Name: Edith Lathwood
Spouse Surname: Warren
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1914
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 380
Thomas H Warren

Name: Edith Warren
Spouse Surname: Warwick
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1927
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 822
Find Spouse: James J Warwick



Strong possibility but you need the birth cert to verify the parents names

seems to be an only child
Name: Joan R Warwick
Mother's Maiden Surname: Lathwood
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1927
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 288

It may be better rather than guessing, to get grandmothers birth cert

It may be that mum was married before so although the mmn is on the birth certs she wouldn't have married in that name

This is my Husbands Grandmother. We know she was born in 1927 Leicester. Mums name given as Lathwood.
Cannot find a marriage between a Warwick and a Lathwood. We dont hink they did. May have links to Birmingham.
I did find a Rhoda Haven marrying a John Lathwood in 1894. Not sure if its linked. Can any one point me in a direction.
Thanks
Clare :-S