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False info on birth & death certs

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mgnv

mgnv Report 5 Apr 2012 21:12

It sounds to me like he expected the children to be known by the mother's ex-husbands surname, and he didn't want the births to be recorded as illegitimate - how else could he have dealt with that situation? As to forgetting the mother's maiden surname, well, it happens.

If accused of committing a crime by lying to the registrar, what did you honestly expect him to say other than "No, I never did - the registrar must have got what I said wrong."

It sounds to me like he expected the children to be known by the mother's ex-husbands surname, and if the births aren't to be recorded as illegitimate, someone's got to lie, and he saved the mother from having to do that.

If the parents are said to be married, the registrar lets all sorts rego the birth. In my male line, I've got 10 b.certs of my direct ancestors and their sibs - 8 were regoed by the child's dad, one by the mum, and one by the maternal grandad. My mum was rego'ed by her gran, and one sis by the other gran.

patchem

patchem Report 5 Apr 2012 20:17

For some background information:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/civilreg.html
including:
'It is still true in the UK that the proud father goes off to the Register Office, records the birth, and gets a short birth certificate. One should note: The hospitals and midwives pass on their records to the register office, who cross you off the list when you turn up to register. You have 6 weeks to do it (strictly 42 days). Also, the hospital records may differ from the final cert - all babies born are listed under their mother's name, which is not necessarily their father's. So the hospital records may have a different surname.'

Dawn

Dawn Report 5 Apr 2012 19:27

Hi, not sure if anyone can advise on this but here goes.
In my research, and also through a relative sending for their full birth cert, it has come to light that false information regarding his fathers surname and his mothers maiden name were given when his birth was registered in the 70's.
It has also come to light that the same false info was given when a baby was born & died, to the same parents, the year before the his birth was registered.
The father who says he registered both births alone denies giving the false info! But the info on both births is the same. He has given his name as the father but used the mothers ex-husbands surname (which the mother still uses to this day!) He gave an incorrect mothers maiden name, it took some digging but I found the maiden name given was the maiden name of the fathers brothers wife! A very tangled web indeed. I just want to know apart from the emotional upset this has caused the living son what are the legal implications of his fathers lies. Incidentally I didn't think a birth could be registered by one parent unless it was the mother? :-S