Genealogy Chat

naughty, naughty, naughty!!!! you have a posting on Find Ancestors and I've been merrily digging away on that one and now I find you have this one :-( :-(

from your post above

"we arent sure if this man is his father as she wasnt married when my grandfather was born so he was adopted by his grandparents"

does that mean you have identified him on the 1911 census? Do you have Vincent's birth certificate, if so please could you give us the details?

Also I am puzzled as to where the name Samuel Benjamin came from as in all the info we have found he does not have a middle name

I can't find him in 1881

His father on that marriage record is a bricksetter - if you zoom in on the image it is easier to read

Sorry I keep asking for help everyone, just wondering if anyone could help me find the census record for Samuel Cooper, for 1871 or 1881, his year of birth is approx 1870 and his fathers name is John Cooper and he was a bricksetter/layer (cant read the old handwriting)

thanks for that, I had found the wrong person, she was called Mary Ann Cooper not Alice, do you have any tips for finding baptism records, like the marriage one you showed me? My Grandfather (Vincent) may have been baptised in the same church his grandparents married in.

unfortunately this church is not on the Lancashire transcription site

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1920
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
COOPER Mary Alice YOUNG William Manchester, St. Catharine Manchester 87/3/387

Shirley - if you mean Samuel & Isabella marriage certificate it is not needed as the link I gave is an exact image of the parish register

The marriage cert will give you his marital status on marriage ,but you will have to buy the cert to see the info .

HI there, I already have a copy of the 1911 census, its information after that I need really we recently found out that he was married before he married my Nan so thats what I am interested in, I am not sure how to use this family search website, i have a record of what i think is my great grandmother and possibly grandfathers marriage (we arent sure if this man is his father as she wasnt married when my grandfather was born so he was adopted by his grandparents) this is the details on the record how would i find this on the family search website?

Name Mary A Cooper
Year of Marriage 1920
Quarter of Marriage Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Prestwich
Registration County Lancashire
Spouse's Surname Young
Volume Number 8D
Volume Page 906

thanks again guys

did you manage to see that marriage record?

He is on the 1911 census if you send me your email address by personal message I can send it to you

jan

Thanks so much everyone, I only posted on here as a long shot hoping someone could help and you have all been incredibly helpful, although I signed up to the site years ago I am still a novice at this sort of stuff, so your help has been greatly appreciated, I am also looking for information on Vincent Cooper born 27th sept 1910 (this is my grandfather) if anyone could help with that, that would be super! (am I pushing my luck now haha :)

if you click on this link you will see an image of the parish register which will save you buying a marriage certificate

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12580-48141-20?cc=1788853&wc=10932342
(Samuel age 19, Isabella age 20)

It was virtually the last one registered in the qtr! - June 30th

Just for info......the Lancsbmd version of the marriage

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1890
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
COOPER Samuel POVEY Isabella Manchester, Bradford, Christ Church Manchester 33/5/226

Put the following in your favourites................

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

If you have Lancs relatives, you'll find it invaluable.

Was this what you found????

Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
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Cooper Samuel Prestwich 8d 499


If you'd clicked on the PAGE number, you'd have found the other names......viz

Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
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Cooper Samuel Prestwich 8d 499
OGDEN Sarah Frances Prestwich 8d 499
POVEY Isabella Prestwich 8d 499
TAYLOR Walter Prestwich 8d 499

As you know his wife's first name, it's easy to determine which of the females Samuel married

Hope this proves helpful for future searches...............

wow thank you so much guys! this will really help me with my search :)

There you go - Jonesey has kindly found it for you :)
(registration probably from free BMD)

Buy certificate online from www,gro.gov.uk It will cost £9.25 including postage. Quote the reference numbers Vol 8d Page 499

Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
Cooper Samuel Prestwich 8d 499
POVEY Isabella Prestwich 8d 499

yes thats what I mean, do you know if you can obtain a copy of the marriage certificate, if you only know the month of the marriage? His name was Samuel Benjamin Cooper, and Married Isabella/Isabel, in April 1890, and they where both born in 1870, the married took place in Prestwich Manchester.

Do you mean the registration of the marriage? Sometimes one can only know the maiden name by purchasing the certificate. Would you care to give the details?