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mgnv

mgnv Report 28 Sep 2011 19:30

There was another Thomas Sommerville-Elizabeth Douglas birth in the IGI, namely

THOMAS SOMMERVILLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 21 JUN 1864 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland

Helen

Helen Report 28 Sep 2011 18:48

Scotlandspeople: Free search

Based on the 1901 census Potty listed.

Possible death:

Thomas Sommerville
1910
County: Lanark
District: Cambusnethan

Age 82yrs (birth year 1828)


Edit: Death certificate should record the parents names ... if known by the informant.

Also the name of the wife of the deceased.

Helen

Helen Report 28 Sep 2011 18:18

As mgnv correctly points out, the parents marriage details will not be able to be found on the birth certificates for James Sommerville and John Sommerville.

However, the birth certificates for Christina and Robert Sommerville should record the date and place of their parents marriage.

If you are able to find this marriage, it will be in the form of an Old Parish Record which may hold varying amounts of information .. some parishes recording more information than others.

mgnv

mgnv Report 28 Sep 2011 16:03

Helen - not any of them. Parents marr details were dropped off b.regos 1856-1860. See:
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/Content/Help/index.aspx?r=554&628#Births

GypsyJoe

GypsyJoe Report 28 Sep 2011 10:46

Potty I have wondered if that 1901 census was the right family, He did have a daughter Elizabeth born about 1854 though I've not found her birth yet. I've also not found his death yet either.

Beverly I too came up with the same one's for 1851 and1841 but now I'm thinking that the 1841 lot are the wrong ones. Mainly because of trying to find marriages that match.

Helen thanks for that I've come up with those ones myself, it's jsut getting back past Thomas I'm having the issue with, especially since I can't find a marriage for him and Elizabeth.

Gypsyjoe

Helen

Helen Report 27 Sep 2011 22:13

Father: Thomas Sommerville
Mother: Elizabeth Douglas

CHRISTINA SOMMERVILLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 13 MAR 1867 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland

JAMES SOMMERVILE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 16 MAR 1856 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland

ROBERT DOUGLAS SOMMERVILLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 16 MAR 1862 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland

JOHN DOUGLAS SOMMERVILE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 08 SEP 1858 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland


If you recognise these children's births as belonging to your Thomas and Elizabeth, downloading any one of them from Scotlandspeople will also register the date and place of the parents marriage.



Potty

Potty Report 27 Sep 2011 16:40

Did he die in Scotland? His death cert should name his parents.

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 27 Sep 2011 16:35

1841?

SOMERVILLE James M 40 Labourer Lanarkshire
SOMERVILLE Christian F 40 Lanarkshire
SOMERVILLE Mary F 17 Lanarkshire
SOMERVILLE Thomas M 15 Lanarkshire
SOMERVILLE Jane F 7 Lanarkshire
SOMERVILLE Margt F 4 Lanarkshire

Piece: SCT1841/628 Place: Cambusnethan -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Cambusnethan Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 628 Page: 28
Address: Marshalls Row, Wishawtown

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 27 Sep 2011 16:32

Here he is in 1851

SOMERVILLE Thomas Head M M 24 Labourer Carter Lanarkshire - Wishaw Town
SOMERVILLE Elizabeth Wife M F 22 Lanarkshire - Wishaw Town

Potty

Potty Report 27 Sep 2011 16:24

Is this your Thomas in 1901 - the Hamiltons are his daughter, son-in-law and granddaughter:

1901 Scotland Census
about Thomas Sommerville
Name: Thomas Sommerville
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Wishaw, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 628
Registration district: Cambusnethan
Civil parish: Cambusnethan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Coltness Mains Farm
Occupation: Gasman
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 9
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1901_253
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Sommerville 72
Lizzie Hamilton 46
Thomas Hamilton 46
Lizzie D Hamilton 14


GypsyJoe

GypsyJoe Report 27 Sep 2011 16:05

I have a bit of a dilema.

I've been searching for the birth of my Thomas Sommerville since I can't find a marriage.

The thing is mine was from Wishaw but on Scotlands people the only ones I can find born around the same time c1827 are...
1. Born 1824 in Carnwath and
2. born 1826 in Shotts.

How do I work out which is the one I'm after?

Thomas's wife was Elizabeth Douglas whom was also apparently born in Wishaw.

I've obtained the approx year of birth from census working on an average and the location of birth from the same source.

Any suggestions greatly appreciated - it's starting to give me a headache. :-(

Please can anyone help :-D

Gypsyjoe