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Literally pulling my hair out. Been trying to Garrity side of tree since I started on Genes. Managed to trace back to Great Great Grandad John Garrity born circa 1830 in Ireland believe Derry? married Ellen born in Ireland circa 1840 don't know maiden name - had 7 children including my Great Grandad Thomas born c1870 in Warrington, Cheshire married Margaret Redhead, they had 5 children including my grandad James Richard born in Lancaster, Lancs. Can't seem to trace any further back have joined Ancestry on Free Trail and it keeps coming up with is blinking Garrity's in America ? have I joined the wrong Ancestry? Don't know what I am doing and think I need help big time. Aghhhhhhhhh its done it again and given me American Garrity's What am I doing wrong??????????? :-S

Is this your great-grandfather's birth? :-

Name: GARRITY, Thomas
Registration District: Warrington
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 8C
Page No: 184

The certificate will give you Ellen's maiden name.

Kath. x

Thanks Kath. It certainly is my Greatgrandad. I will send off for Cert. Cheers
Vanessa x

Hi Vanessa

Do you know if John & Ellen were married in Ireland or England?

Also is this your family 1881 england census?


Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John GARATY Head M Male 52 Ireland Labourer
Ellen GARATY Wife M Female 50 Ireland
Michael GARATY Son U Male 22 St Helens, Lancashire, England British Subject
Martin GARATY Son U Male 19 St Helens, Lancashire, England Labourer
Hebard GARATY Son U Male 18 St Helens, Lancashire, England Labourer
Peter GARATY Son U Male 16 St Helens, Lancashire, England Labourer
John GARATY Son U Male 14 St Helens, Lancashire, England Labourer
Thomas GARATY Son U Male 12 St Helens, Lancashire, England Scholar
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Source Information:
Dwelling 69 Liverpool Street
Census Place Eccleston In Prescot, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341894
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3736 / 29
Page Number 13

Suzanne

Hi Suzanne. Yes this is my family in the 1881 census. I think they were actually married in Ireland. Thanks Suzanne. I have tried searching different sites, but think I might be doing something wrong as I keep hitting brick walls.
Cheers Vanessa

Hi Vanessa

when you go onto search on Ancestry at the bottom of the search box you will see
collection priority
change it to UK and Irish

Vanessa

Have you found the family on all of the english census years?

Or, someone on here could kindly look them up for you?

Suzanne

Hi I have tried searching up to 1891, but after that can't seem to find them, also noticed that their daughter Mary born 1859 does not appear on 1881 or 1891 census for some reason, but all the boys do, why would this happen? Its also quite difficult searching your Irish roots it is not as staight forward as searching for ancestors born in England. :-S

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Groom's Name: John Gerraty
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Ellen Tuohy
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 27 Feb 1855
Marriage Place: Saint Nicholas,Liverpool,Lancashire,England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00599-4
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 93852
Reference Number:

Marriages Mar 1855 (>99%)
Byrne Mary Liverpool 8b 250
Farrell Thomas Liverpool 8b 250
GERRATY John Liverpool 8b 250
TUOHY Ellen Liverpool 8b 250

This is the GRO reference for the marriage that safc found:-

Name: GERRATY, John
Registration District: Liverpool
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 8B
Page No: 250

Kath. x

Thank you for info, I know that John father was called Patrick and so was Ellens and know both sides of the family are from Ireland, but other than that I can't seem to find any other info. Cheers Vanessa

THERE IS A TREE ON ANCESTRY
Thomas Garrity WITH 5 OTHER BROTHERS

Birth DecQ/1869 in St Helens, Lancashire

MOTHER
Ellen NYK
Birth ABT 1831 in Ireland
FATHER
JOHN GARRITY IRELAND

Hi Dizzi. Sorry I did not come back on last night, went to bed early. I know Thomas had five brothers and one sister, I am really interested in what happened to the sister Mary born c1859 as she does not appear on census after 1881. Thomas had 5 children - Sarah (aunt Sally) she married someone called William Regan. Alice she married Albert Jones. Peter he died in 1st WW. William Matthew he was born in America and I believe he married a Evelyn Studholme and last but not least my Grandda James Richard. I think I may try to trace spouses and of members of their family eventually, its just a bit frustrating that I can't seem to trace any further back on the Irish side. Never mind I will just have to perservere. Cheers Vanessa

A couple of possible marriages for Mary:-

Name: GERRATY, Mary
Registration District: Warrington
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 8C
Page No: 207

Spouse either Michael Clark or Joseph Whitehouse.

or:-

Name: GERRETY, Mary
Registration District: Rochdale
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 8E
Page No: 127

Spouse either Patrick Callaghan or Thomas Gillespie.

Kath. x

Thanks Kath, will have to do a little more research I think, will let you know what happens. Vanessa x

Hi I have a question for Suzanne. You have family that you research in Ireland. How easy hard have you found it is to trace family there. Also if you don't think it is too cheeky asking what search engines do you have you used and how easy are they to use. Thanks Vanessa x :-)

Hi Vanessa

When i started my irish research a few years ago - it was a nightmare to be truthful. But, coming onto this boards gave me a great deal of information.

I have ancestors in the north of ireland - Belfast, Londonderry, Co. Down.

For these i use familysearch, emerald ancestors, ulster historical foundation and irish roots.

Also, I have ancestors in the south of ireland - Co.Cork.

Again, I use familysearch & irish roots.

I have found alot of information on my ancestors using these sites - but you have to pay really to get records of births, marriages etc.

I have found them pretty easy to navigate too.

If you need further help - let me know either on this thread or by pm and i'll be glad to help you find more information as long as you give me all the relevant information.

Suzanne :)

Sorry Suzanne that I did not answer straight away have been to dance practice. Thank you for the offer of help, I will possibly take you up on that in the near future. Cheers Vanessa :-D

Hi All, slightly confused here. On my grandfathers birth certificate Garrity is spelt Garrity, yet on here it is spelt lots of different ways ie Garrety, Gerraty, Gerrity and so in. No wonder it is difficult trying to find relatives :-S. Has anybody else got this problem?