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George Saunders, 1907, H. Wycombe (chepping wyc.)

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cassi444

cassi444 Report 9 Sep 2011 17:58

Hi Cynthia
I have just been through the tree matches, and the near matches for him, and we shall see if any relatives pop up!! I think I will have a day off and head to the High Wycombe library, see if I can find them, that way, I will still have time to head off to Aylesbury if I have no joy!!
What is IGI?
Cassi
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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 9 Sep 2011 18:23

Hello Cassi,

Hope you have sent messages to possible links on here!


Here is the link for the IGI - International Genealogical Index. It's an invaluable free resource for researchers.

https://www.familysearch.org/


What did you think of the births from freebmd?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/


Cx

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 9 Sep 2011 19:40

Just a note about the IGI on familysearch,

their are two types of entry's
submitted and extracted

Submitted; needs to be looked into further as these are entries from members of the latter-day saints organisation so not reliable

Extracted; these are taken from parish records so more reliable,

each entry will say towards the bottom of the page whether submitted or extracted

the link above is to the new search on familysearch site,

I still prefer the old search so still use the link below

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp

Roy

cassi444

cassi444 Report 10 Sep 2011 01:05

Thankyou for both of those links, I'll try them both see which one works best for me!! LOL
Had a reply from a lady on the tree requests I made earlier. She has more information for me to check out too!!! xoxox Thankyou everyone!
:-D

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 10 Sep 2011 08:28

Both of those links will be useful Cassi, they are used by the helpers on here all the time.


The familysearch site has many records c1600-1900, whilst freebmd has bmds from 1837-c1950s - and they are still being added to.



Roy, I am torn between the old and the new searches - I like the new way for it's presentation, but prefer the older version for sibling searches etc. Old habits die hard don't they? :-D

cassi444

cassi444 Report 10 Sep 2011 13:14

Hi everyone,
Facts I do know about George Saunders b. 1907 Penn Bucks, birthday 2nd January, Father, John, General Labourer, Mother Elizabeth, formerley Elstone.
He definately lived in Penn as a child/young adult, and came from there, so to speak, to marry my Grandmother, Dorothy Winifred Morley, 1906. Married 1933, when George returned from the Army. They lived in 'Back Lane' Kingsmead road, it would have been in Hunts Cottages, Nan's Mum and Dad lived next door to them, no.s 5/6. When they first married, then moved to Herbert Road, Micklefield, High Wycombe, where they lived until a few years after George died in 1975. Dorothy died in 1988. I have both of their death cert's too.
Feel certain John was a carpenter, or such. He may have been a general labourer when George was born, but they were of a higher 'class' than my Grandmother, by area, so not sure about the information you have found, so far.
I agree that the 'e' could be missing from the Elstone, but then why did she make sure it was there for George's birth certificate?
His sister, Ada may not have been her real first name, as was common in that time. Ada married an Alfred Newell.
George had brothers and sisters.
The rest of my family of that time, didn't travel more than a few miles to marry their partners, so I really am not sure that John would have travelled so much. He is registered as a general labourer in 1907, there was so much agricultural work in this area, can't reason that he would travel so far to do something he could have done where he was!
Penn is an afluent area, full of agricultural labourers, who with the arrival of machinery, would have had to find new careers, and the arrival and growth of the furniture industry of High Wycombe, mean't that mostly, they became carpenters, chair makers etc. My great uncle Charlie, used to 'drove' the chairs, stacked to the maximum, to London, where he would sell them all before heading home for the next lot. He never married. Charles Slade, (1861) picture of him with said chairs, for those of you who have access to my tree. If any of you would like to access my tree, please send a request, as it may help.
Thankyou very much once again everyone, I really appreciate all the time you have spent helping me out
<3 <3 <3 Cassi xoxox

cassi444

cassi444 Report 10 Sep 2011 13:18

p.s. I have had news back from the tree search for George and while I didn't find any more info for him, I did find a relative of my partner Tim Mason, who has a few more relatives than I do!! Also, one of the Mason ladies, married a Saunders of Loosley Row, Princes Risborough!! Small world in those days!!
Fingers X'd for some more results like that one!!
Cassi x

cassi444

cassi444 Report 10 Sep 2011 19:23

Ok, have spoke to Mum again today and George's brothers were John and William, and William lives in Gerrards Cross, but I'm at a bbq tonite so don't have time to look this up!!
Cassi xoxox ;-)

cassi444

cassi444 Report 11 Sep 2011 01:29

Hi everyone,
I am now very swayed towards the John, 1855.
Everything seems to fit...except, why did they dis-own my
grandad for having a child out of wedlock>? When they had
already done that very thing themselves?>
I am going to pursue this very valid lead, and perhaps one
of my cousins from that side may well know why he was
banished from the family. Would be very sad to me if this
is true. Or perhaps I will find another reason he was caste
out of the family fold
Kind Regards and warm thx to everyone xoxox
I will let you know my findings from birth certs etc!
Cassi x

cassi444

cassi444 Report 19 Sep 2011 09:32

hi all,
I have spoken to the lady at the records office and she says that my Grandfathers' birth certificate has NOT been changed or altered, so therefore he cannot have been George Elston b.1906, which incidently is also the year before my Grandad was born.
I have requested John and Elizabeth's marriage certificate last week, to see if this will shed some light on anything, but not heard anything yet.
I am also going to have a day off to spend in the High Wycombe library, or search micro film, so any tips you can give me for that would be greatly appreciated too.
Kind Regards
Cassi xoxox :-D